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I will take the side of whoever doesn't vandalize property. I won't support an American *just* because they're American and for no other reason. Our nationality alone does not make us superior to Brazilians, Iranians, Mexicans, Canadians, etc.
So you are fine with trashy Brazilians booing our track competitors? And stand up for country once in a while, too. We need to walk tall and kick butt to regain the respect (and fear) we used to enjoy.
America needs to stand up for its citizens. We are mistreated around the world. I can assure you if these were Russian swimmers, Putin would have kicked some butt by now.
First of all, I seriously doubt that, because Putin is a grown man, and a very intelligent and reasonably sane one as well. He'd have the sense to know that this is between those brats and the country whose laws they broke, and stay the hell out of it. Second of all, nobody is "mistreating" those frat boys. They broke the law, and they're having to answer for that. Do you think Americans are immune from the law just because they're American?
Why do you think it's the job of a President to force countries to release Americans who violate the laws of those countries? Can you please explain that? And let me ask you one other thing - if those were Brazilian athletes accused of a crime here in the United States, and the government of Brazil tried to "kick American butt" and get them set free without having to face charges, what would be your reaction? Have you got the guts to give me a straight answer to that question? I seriously doubt you do - I'm sure you'll just change the subject again - but what the hell, I thought it was at least worth a try.
Let me ask you something else - do you think the American government should withdraw from every extradition treaty they have with every other country on Earth? You complain about how "mistreated" Americans are around the world - well, arrogant, entitled attitudes like yours are the reason for that.
They paid for the damages, it would have ended there but now it is an international incident an Lochte is probably going to lose a few million in endorsements, why couldn't they just shut up and move on. We should not be supporting stupid behavior by anyone.
I hope that include Brazilian thugs who pull guns and threaten our athletes. That would not be acceptable in our civilized nation and we should not tolerate it from third world nations either.
So you are fine with trashy Brazilians booing our track competitors? And stand up for country once in a while, too. We need to walk tall and kick butt to regain the respect (and fear) we used to enjoy.
Americans get a bad rap abroad, incidents like this don't help make our case.
They paid for the damages, it would have ended there but now it is an international incident an Lochte is probably going to lose a few million in endorsements, why couldn't they just shut up and move on.
We should not be supporting stupid behavior by anyone.
Probably whipping in public. Lochte would watch his friends get whipped on TV.
Let's get real here. A caining in Singapore, but if those guys hadn't paid for that door, they would probably be dead. I'd rather be in Singapore than Brazil if I was being charged with anything. Imagine a Brazilian prison! It's the murder capital of the world. Brazil should be worried about their murder rate hurting tourism more than drunk guys breaking a door and lying about it.
First of all, I seriously doubt that, because Putin is a grown man, and a very intelligent and reasonably sane one as well. He'd have the sense to know that this is between those brats and the country whose laws they broke, and stay the hell out of it. Second of all, nobody is "mistreating" those frat boys. They broke the law, and they're having to answer for that. Do you think Americans are immune from the law just because they're American?
Why do you think it's the job of a President to force countries to release Americans who violate the laws of those countries? Can you please explain that? And let me ask you one other thing - if those were Brazilian athletes accused of a crime here in the United States, and the government of Brazil tried to "kick American butt" and get them set free without having to face charges, what would be your reaction? Have you got the guts to give me a straight answer to that question? I seriously doubt you do - I'm sure you'll just change the subject again - but what the hell, I thought it was at least worth a try.
Let me ask you something else - do you think the American government should withdraw from every extradition treaty they have with every other country on Earth?
Extradition is for serious crime, not lying to the police which would be a misdemeanor here. We need to be very careful about turning our citizens over to publicity trials without the kind of due process they get in the US. We saw what happened in Italy and Italy is about 1000 percent more civilized than Brazil.
Lochte is home, but Brazil kidnapped 2 of our swimmers from the plane today while another is in hiding. Meanwhile, crickets from Obama. Why is he not threatening sanctions and perhaps worse against Brazil?
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Originally Posted by revrandy
Brazil didn't kidnap anyone. They did what any country would do when they wanted to question someone with respect to a criminal investigation - confiscate their passport until the issue is resolved.
rev is right on this. these athletes made false statements, and these need to be investigated, and if necessary prosecuted. just because they are american athletes does not mean they are immune to detention and prosecution.
Let's get real here. A caining in Singapore, but if those guys hadn't paid for that door, they would probably be dead. I'd rather be in Singapore than Brazil if I was being charged with anything. Imagine a Brazilian prison! It's the murder capital of the world. Brazil should be worried about their murder rate hurting tourism more than drunk guys breaking a door and lying about it.
They do worry about murders, but this thing was all over the international media and the claim was that even Olympic athletes are being robbed in Rio. It is not surprising they want to clear it up.
What if an Iranian female athlete went to the media during Olympics in US claiming she was gang raped by bunch of men wearing KKK gear. It would be all over the global media, and the US would want to clear it up if there was any suspicion she made up the whole story.
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