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Originally Posted by petch751
You could have posted things you think Hillary will do that benefits Americans. Instead you're voting for Hillary, (who made sure you're candidate didn't win by cheating) as an anti-Trump vote. You do realize that you're doing exactly what they expect you to do right? LOL, you're being played. and you thought you were smart lol
They're playing you like a fiddle LOL
Ok got it.
I am smart, because I realize that Jill Stein, the only candidate left who I want to vote for, has no chance in hell of winning, so voting for her would be throwing my vote away, and would give one more point to Trump between the two candidates who actually have a shot of winning
They do think people are stupid and they do understand human nature. They understood the plan would collapse under it's own weight and people would naturally panic. Single payer was the ultimate goal, and people will be clamoring for the government to step in and set it up. It's despicable and evil, but the end-game was always single payer, no matter who got screwed.
You folks think it's bad now...Wait till you see what happens when the government takes over health care. Just look what happened to college loans.
Because of the "Nader effect". Almost nobody votes third party, so if I voted for Jill Stein, I would be defacto giving Trump my vote by taking a vote away from Hillary. I don't want this to be another 2000 election, where Ralph Nader, Katherine Harris, and the Supreme Court all cost Gore the election
If you really think about it, Al Gore, cost Al Gore the election! He couldn't even win his home state!
One of the gotchas of Obamacare is that all policies have to be Ocare compliant whether you get them through the marketplace or not. That is why when you look at your employer's offered health insurance policies if you are lucky enough to still have it there are three options...gold, silver, bronze.
Trump 2016.
The plans should be labeled lead,iron and copper instead of gold silver and bronze
you may well die if the dems are successful in their plans to destroy healthcare so they can replace it with a plan that gives them life and death absolute power over us, because then only the poltically connected and the elites will be able to obtain good healthcare
Our policy with Blue Cross went from $137.50 last year to $832.84....A raise of a whopping 605%. So if we pay our premiums each month and then our deductible of $13,000 for both of us it would cost $22984 per year. How can anyone construe this as "affordable" ? I think we will decide to opt out and pay our costs as we go and hope for nothing catastrophic to happen.
Our policy with Blue Cross went from $137.50 last year to $832.84....A raise of a whopping 605%. So if we pay our premiums each month and then our deductible of $13,000 for both of us it would cost $22984 per year. How can anyone construe this as "affordable" ? I think we will decide to opt out and pay our costs as we go and hope for nothing catastrophic to happen.
Wow. How anyone can think that the majority of people can suddenly add an extra $700 to their monthly expenses and be okay with it, is beyond me.
Is the $13K actually your deductible? Because beyond that, there is an out-of-pocket maximum amount you must meet before they start paying your bills at 100%. So they may pay 70% after you reach $13K, until you spend another $1500 or so on top of that, and then they'll start paying everything.
For increases in Obamacare, Thank Marco Rubio - he added a provision to the omnibus bill that took away the subsidies for increases. This is how it works - the republicans break the system, then complain it doesn't work.
I'm not a Rubio fan but he is way better than the Murphy/Obama choice that will bankrupt Florida.
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and you thought you were smart lol
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