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What I learned from this election is that we haven't progressed from the civil rights movement, women's movement, etc... as much as I thought. I was a Bernie Sanders supporter; I didn't like Clinton. I was on the fence this election until the Billy Bush tape and the sexual harassment allegations. I was probably never going to vote for Trump after he made fun of that disabled guy, but I was thinking 3rd party, Johnson or Stein.
What I have learned from this thread is that actual issues seem to have played no part whatsoever in your decision making process when you chose who to vote for in this election.
Do I need to post my graphs again of DOJ statistics showing that blacks are 27x more likely to attack a non-black than vice versa, and that whites commit the lowest rate of interracial crime, or that blacks attack whites about half the time they commit violent crime, and Hispanics attack whites over half the time they victimize?
Liberals lie. They got to keep the lies going to scapegoat whites and make them the bane of all things good.
Trump is a blunt, non-polished political speaker and does engage in hyperbole at times, I'll give you that.
The point he was making is the mostly lower class and many of the criminal of latin America have been illegally crossing our border. Why is it when one rightfully criticizes actions and behaviors of any non-white identity group members, it's "racism!"? But if you criticize white identity group members, it's supposedly enlightenment and virtue? That's the racism.
Have they??? I haven't seen crime stats that show that.
I do sympathize to the extent that there seems to be no one "standing up" for white people. We get blamed for a lot... for stuff that most of us as individuals were not to blame for and did not ask for. Every other group - blacks, hispanics, etc... all kind of have a "champion" and they seem to have little things in their favor like affirmative action, etc...
I'm not dismissive of that & know where it's coming from... but with Trump I think think they went a little overboard.
What I have learned from this thread is that actual issues seem to have played no part whatsoever in your decision making process when you chose who to vote for in this election.
No I don't think issues mattered at all. Trump was all over the place on the issues. His platform was "win, win win!" He said in his victory speech he's going to build new infrastructure & it's going to be world class. Okay, great! With what money? Because he's also going to cut taxes for everyone.
I don't really care about Trump vs. Hillary. Didn't like either of them, but reluctantly decided to vote Hillary after the "Grab them by the P***sy" tape.
However, I feel very sorry for minorities in this country, and to a lesser extent women who want to go to college and not be housewives or trophy wives. They just got a BIG middle finger from the non-college whites in this country.
A friend of mine has an adopted daughter from China. Even before the election, other kids at school were telling her she needed to go home. She didn't understand & went home crying. I'm really scared for what she will face now.
Every bully in this country just got validated.
I'm from Texas, can turn on my accent if I want to talk conservative, and I'm a combat vet with 6 years service in the Army. And I'm white. Trump supporters won't hate on me; I can blend in with them.
What I would hate to be now, is a Muslim woman who wears any kind of head scarf or something that outs her as a Muslim.
You assume much. It won't be that way. People know what's right and wrong man. Even conservatives.
Agreed, he should have treated these undocumented immigrants with the same respect as they showed for our immigration laws.
Oh, wait.
I agree.
I'm from Arizona and lived there for decades. Most of the people on here making comments about illegal immigration have never lived in it right where its happening. It hurts us and them. I've known both legal and illegal aliens. There is a big difference. Those that come here legally speak English well enough and are better able to find employment and take care of themselves. Because they have a right to be here they aren't at risk for being exploited by others the way an illegal person is. Illegal aliens will live 25 or more people in the tiniest of apartments because they can be illegally paid dirt pay in cash and what else are you going to do? Do you know what this does to neighborhoods?
Why don't we fix Mexico? Why doesn't Mexico fix Mexico? If you could fix what problems are in it you wouldn't have people trying to leave in droves. I've been there. Gorgeous beaches, the culture is bright and colorful, great food. Potential everywhere. Something is so wrong when its own people can't tap into it.
Lol desert. Hey OP if what you say happened really happened, then it is unfortunate and those Muslims and Asians will have to get out there and fight the good fight for their rights just like us Black folks had to do. As for us, we are retired and we wish everyone well.
I don't deny it at all. A majority of one group was voting for Mexico and La Raza, another was voting for BLM, another muh China and Asian. It wasn't just racial/ethnically though. Another was voting for female identity, another for muh Islam etc.
Whites were really just voting for America they knew and to not be imposed upon and scapegoated with government backing for another 4 years.
You assume much. It won't be that way. People know what's right and wrong man. Even conservatives.
We can hope. I've seen some isolated incidents that are not encouraging, but hopefully courtesy, etiquette and decency have not completely died. Generally speaking I found Trump to be an offensive person. I don't like rudeness or arrogance.
You're right but that's not the point...he has brought out the bully in a lot of people regardless of what his real plans are. Even here in relatively purple Long Island, there is evidence of what the OP talks about..I know people who teach in schools from k-12 and most of them have seen the kind of nasty stuff that they haven't seen before, and it's emboldened by Trump.
I don't think he won the election because of that, but to deny that element being there is a fallacy.
Racial division in this country is related to the obsession of the Democrats in classifying people according to race and ethnicity. We have more racial classes than Nazi germany or the old South Africa.
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