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What specific evidence do you require to believe that Russia hacked our election?
The same evidence or burden of "Proof" that you would "DEMAND" if they where accusing you of doing it. Or do you have standards that are made to order, depending on what you think it should be. Do you know anything about "Burden of Proof" or "Evidence?" Do you think people are found "Guilty" of a Crime just on "He said" or "They said?"
Fact is, its all BS, and a Hacker that works for a Foreign Government isn't going to be some Clown sitting at his home with a traceable IP number that points to his house like a Neon sign. I used to run all over the Net, and go any place I pleased, without leaving any "Crumbs" behind to follow. Its easy. You jump from server to server, and through Countries that do not give access to the US to check where the link originates. If I used a site in China, thats as far back as you could find it, even if I was 3 houses down the road from you.
The Government can't even find all the Hackers that live in this Country, that have hacked their own Networks, from the Defense Department, to the FBI, yet they want us to believe that they could find the trail to Russia of Hackers that are just as good, if not better, and have far more access to better computers. Thats laughable, if you know anything about Computers.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...omey-wikileaks
The FBI covered up information about Russia seeking to tip the 2016 presidential election in Donald Trump’s favour, a senior Democrat claimed on Saturday, after reports emerged about spy agencies’ investigations into hacks of US political parties.
Harry Reid referring to FBI head, James Comey. And Comey is the same person who sent a letter ten days before the election stating that they had found more suspicious emails. This was found to be in violation of the Hatch Act that prevents the FBI from interfering with an election. Two days before the election he had to send another letter saying that it was not true.
Things are starting to make sense regarding this President Elect and the Russians.
The CIA has concluded in a secret assessment that Russia intervened in the 2016 election to help Donald Trump win the presidency, rather than just to undermine confidence in the US electoral system, according to officials briefed on the matter.
The U.S. Intelligence Community (USIC) is confident that the Russian Government directed the recent compromises of e-mails from US persons and institutions, including from US political organizations. The recent disclosures of alleged hacked e-mails on sites like DCLeaks.com and WikiLeaks and by the Guccifer 2.0 online persona are consistent with the methods and motivations of Russian-directed efforts.
Again with the nomination of Rex Tillerson for secretary of state. Concerns were raised about his ties to the Russians because in 2011, Tillerson announced a relationship with a Russian business that will spend years and billions of dollars developing technology to explore and produce oil and gas in the Russian Arctic. Putin gave the Order of Friendship to Tillerson in 2013. He's the CEO of Exxon Mobile.
Sen. Marco Rubio and other GOP senators fired a warning shot this weekend over President-elect Donald Trump’s consideration of ExxonMobil Chairman Rex Tillerson for secretary of state, raising concerns about the global energy titan’s reported Russian ties.
So WHAT is going on here? I don't know either but something's fishy and I hope somebody's keeping an eye on all of this.
Why is it not surprising that the Trump cult would rather believe bimbo Kelly Ann Conway rather than the the intelligence community.
Oh, Yes, Lets believe the "Intelligence" Community. The same ones that are spying on all of us every day. The same ones who endorsed Hillary and work for Obama. The same ones who are arming Groups in Syria because they say they are fighting Assad, but can be Al Qaeda, or any other anti-American group. The same folks who said Hillary was not guilty of anything, The same folks who don't want Trump as President. Yes, by all means, lets trust these Clowns.
wouldn't they have also had him win the popular vote?
Libturds.. I swear.... amazing
They haven't figured that one out yet. You have to consider who you are dealing with here. These Liberals are more of a Threat to this Country than any Foreign Government is, or ever was. They are so Desperate now, that anything is possible out of them. If they thought they could get away with it, they would VOID the Election and just take over the Government, in the name of "National Security."
This all gets into the high security stuff that no one will publicly deal with. To show what they actually have leads immediately to a demonstration of capability that the spooks will not be willing to do. And that is reasonable. A good tech can tell a lot about what you can do by seeing what you got. So we have to take or not take someones word.
And there does not seem to be much real dissension. The FBI is not arguing with the CIA. It is simply saying it is not proof beyond a doubt but rather a preponderance of the evidence.
This isn't Russia. This is America. Our System requires "Proof" and "Evidence" beyond a reasonable doubt.
Lets face it. We have been hearing of "Hacks" in our own Systems for years, including the Defense Department, the FBI, and many more, yet very, very, few of the Hackers have ever been found, and these are local Yokels, in most cases, yet they want you to believe thay all of a sudden can Track this back to Russia?
Even if they did, what was the plot? To release genuine, true, e-mails showing actual fraud, and conspiracy to "FIX" the Election in favor of Hillary? Releasing information that was true, so Voters could actually be informed of what each Candidate stood for? Are we to ignore facts. like CNN feeding questions to Hillary before a debate, just because it was a "Hacked" e-mail? Do we want to make telling the truth abut crooks to the Public, a crime, just because the Crooks don't like it?
If thats the case, lets release all the Criminals in Jails, that ended up there because of a "Tip" to the Police, or on evidence that was gathered without the Crooks knowledge from his phone calls or e-mails, or Private accounts on Social Media.
I'm not at all upset. He is a buffoon and always has been. The man has never had tact nor breeding. At the end of the day he has the potential to be a national embarrassment, worse than any president prior.
I'm not worried about Pence. He's a generic republican puppet. Trump is the loose cannon.
I can't argue your points. However Hillary isn't any better. This was a terrible choice.
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