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Old 12-12-2016, 10:02 AM
 
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Yeah FatBob, it is IMPOSSIBLE for our actual polling places to be hacked because they are NOT connected to the internet or any central server or anything of the sort.

What the MSM is suggesting is all of the Wikileaks were hacked by the Russians and that's what they are calling "hacking the election".
The rumor-mongers leave people with the impression that our voting machines are sitting on the internet during an election, and could be hacked. This is how rumors get spread that the Russians could have hacked into voting machines and changed votes during our presidential election.

John Podesta's email is where a lot of the Wikileaks came from. However, Podesta's email was not 'hacked' into. Someone just send him a phishing email, which prompted him to log into his email account, which he did. So that person got his user & login info, and copied all the emails from his account. in early 2016.
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Old 12-12-2016, 10:09 AM
 
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So what we know is there might have been some hacking of democrat email servers that produced real truthful information about the democrats and their Presidential nominee.


there seems to be NO EVIDENCE that the Russians, or anyone else actually hacked or even attempted to hack the election itself.


Someone from the left tell me how this is different from Obama attempting to influence the Israeli elections? OR Obama actually influencing the Egyptian elections that brought Muslim Brotherhood Morisi (sp) to power?
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Old 12-12-2016, 10:13 AM
 
Location: Florida
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As far as leaking questions, Fox News supposedly did the same for Trump, so it seems like a wash to me. If Russia really did do hacking for Trump, it's a bigger scandal than Watergate.
Absolutely. It's hilarious some people think something CNN or FOX did would somehow be a bigger issue than Russia meddling in our elections.
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Old 12-12-2016, 10:15 AM
 
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Soo...

You think the CIA is untrustworthy, but the FBI and Comey are "a-ok?"

It's all dodgy.

That has nothing to do with wanting to "steal" anything. If Trump won fair and square, then he won.

If he didn't, and if Russia has something to do with it, that's a huge issue that transcends party politics.

I'd say this no matter WHO won this election.
True, but if someone is going to make a public charge, that the Russians hacked the election, they need some kind of proof, that this may have occurred. Simply claiming well, they might be able to, maybe, and making purposely vague statements that might allow people to make the assumption that the Russians tapered with or manipulated the vote counts, is irresponsible.


"Defending our elections from foreign meddling is more important than any political party's advantage or disadvantage," House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi said in a statement. "Any Administration should be deeply troubled by Russia's attempt to tamper with our elections."
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Old 12-12-2016, 10:29 AM
 
Location: Arizona, The American Southwest
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If Russia hacked the elections, why did Clinton win Trump's home state of New York, and other states that normally vote blue, California in particular?
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Old 12-12-2016, 10:32 AM
 
Location: deafened by howls of 'racism!!!'
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Though Bolton didn’t elaborate on the term “false flag,” he seemed to be suggesting that someone in the Obama administration or the intelligence agencies could have been attempting to falsely lead the public into believing Russia was to blame for the hacking.
John Bolton says claims of Russian hacking could be "false flag" operation - CBS News
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Old 12-12-2016, 10:37 AM
 
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Third party info, "I have a cousin that has a friend that his brother.....".
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Old 12-12-2016, 10:38 AM
 
Location: San Diego
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I seriously doubt anyone changed their vote based on any of this information. My mind was made up the day it whittled down to 2.
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Old 12-12-2016, 10:46 AM
 
Location: NY in body, Mayberry in spirit.
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Let's not forget what the Left was saying about Russia when Obama won in 2012 ......

Kind of funny seeing the left freak out over Russia and Putin especially given this is the same left who mocked Mitt Romney in 2012 for calling Russia a geopolitical foe.
Obama to Romney...'the 1980's are now calling to ask for their foreign policy back. Because the Cold War has been over for 20 years'.

Such a flippant attitude by our Commander in Chief. The Dems will say anything in pursuit of votes. Now all of a sudden, Russia is back on Obama's radar. Maybe he should apologize to Romney. Yea, fat chance.
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Old 12-12-2016, 10:55 AM
 
Location: Formerly New England now Texas!
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With all this hubbub about Russian hacking, there is one thing that I haven't heard anyone asking about.

The actual nuts and bolts about how to accomplish such a task.


Are there really states stupid enough to connect voting machines or tabulating computers to the internet?

It seems to me, if you want to keep something as important as our electoral process secure, why would you have any part of it online and therefore susceptible to electronic interference?

And why am I seemingly the only one who's asking this glaringly obvious question?
In Detroit for example, you list 300 ballots counted, all but 2 for Hillary. The sealed box is opened, and only 60 ballots reside within. 2 for Trump.

Hillary lost an election she rigged, which is breaking yet another glass ceiling!
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