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Old 12-26-2016, 02:55 PM
 
Location: Self explanatory
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Sounds like someone missed their med refill before the holiday.
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Old 12-26-2016, 03:00 PM
 
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No, we liberals don't hate the trades, or manufacturing, or construction workers. What we do hate are some of the conditions that manufacturing created over the years -- child labor, abuse of miners in terms of working conditions and "company stores", and so forth.

Your whole paragraph about Carrier and jobs is pure hogwash (and that's putting it politely).

As is your paragraph about punishing oil, natural gas, and coal workers. What we hate were having rivers that literally caught on fire because of seepage of fuel (e.g., the Buffalo River in 1968), or the deadly pollution of the Love Canal and similar places that were caused by the total disregard of industry for people's health, or the decimation of coal fields and the people who live in those areas by the coal industry (the management of which was often thuggish).

You need go back and look at photos of air pollution and water pollution that dogged this nation for decades, and compare it today. And you need to stop excusing businesses that cause cancer and other deadly disease. If you love it so much, YOU go suck in the air pollution and drink up the water in places like Flint. You do the suffering and let the rest of us live relatively healthy lives.
Exactly.

Republicans carry on about illegal immigrants and borders, but it is the wealthy who want them over here working in their factories, watching their kids, washing their floors.

It would be easy enough to fix. Put some teeth in the laws about hiring workers who aren't here legally. They were stripped from Reagan's amnesty bill.
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Old 12-26-2016, 03:07 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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What does "makes the world around" mean? Do you mean "makes the world go round"?

You need go back and look at photos of air pollution and water pollution that dogged this nation for decades, and compare it today. And you need to stop excusing businesses that cause cancer and other deadly disease. If you love it so much, YOU go suck in the air pollution and drink up the water in places like Flint. You do the suffering and let the rest of us live relatively healthy lives.
The mayor of Flint is a Democrat who was invited to be one of the keynote speakers at the Democratic National Convention.

Flint Mayor Calls Out Republicans Over Water Crisis At DNC « CBS Detroit

It looks like the best tap water in America comes from Curtis, Nebraska which is the county seat of Frontier County which voted for Trump with 84% of the vote.

https://www.yahoo.com/style/who-has-...555149521.html

Nebraska Secretary of State - Election Night Results

The 2nd best water was in heavily Republican Stansbury Park, Utah
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Old 12-26-2016, 03:09 PM
 
Location: Santa Monica
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So you want to live in a country where the water is poisoned by unregulated factories? Where you can't breathe the air without risking cancer?

Really?
Fear of the unknown: keeping statism alive and well for thousands of years.
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Old 12-26-2016, 03:16 PM
 
Location: 500 miles from home
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I think social media is a good thing in some regards but it seems like the San Francisco and Los Angeles liberals think that bandwidth and an application makes the world around.

Yet, the liberals absolutely hate trades, manufacturing and construction workers.

The liberals do all they can to bring out the NIMBY's, environmentalists and ridiculous housing codes into the equation to the construction industry.

The liberals absolutely hate hard workers who make everyday products. They act like hundreds of people keeping their jobs with Carrier making a living and keeping Americans cool in the summer is in awful thing.

The liberals also want to do all they can to punish the coal workers, oil workers and natural gas workers with their ridiculous environmental regulations and red-tape.

The liberals punishment of oil, natural gas and coal workers has more to do punishing those who didn't spend 8 years of being indoctrinated by crap at liberal arts colleges. They look down on those who actually keep America running with coal, oil and natural gas as opposed to those who sit in classrooms, go into debt and then make a living by consulting.

The liberals also want to burden America's over the road truck drivers with lots of regulations, despite the fact that many liberals sit inside their office suites all-day on Amazon ordering specialty products that they insist is delivered the next day or they have a liberal tantrum.
There is not ONE thing in that silly rant that is truthful.

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The mayor of Flint is a Democrat who was invited to be one of the keynote speakers at the Democratic National Convention.

Flint Mayor Calls Out Republicans Over Water Crisis At DNC « CBS Detroit

It looks like the best tap water in America comes from Curtis, Nebraska which is the county seat of Frontier County which voted for Trump with 84% of the vote.

https://www.yahoo.com/style/who-has-...555149521.html

Nebraska Secretary of State - Election Night Results

The 2nd best water was in heavily Republican Stansbury Park, Utah
Chicago water is best for my hair.

That said, IF the Flint mayor was involved in the process of trying to save money on Flint water and thus ending up with the entire debacle - then he should be fired, along with the governor and any other public official that knew what was going on. IMO. And I don't give one damn which party they belong to.
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Old 12-26-2016, 03:20 PM
 
Location: Michigan
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The mayor of Flint is a Democrat who was invited to be one of the keynote speakers at the Democratic National Convention.

Flint Mayor Calls Out Republicans Over Water Crisis At DNC « CBS Detroit

It looks like the best tap water in America comes from Curtis, Nebraska which is the county seat of Frontier County which voted for Trump with 84% of the vote.

https://www.yahoo.com/style/who-has-...555149521.html

Nebraska Secretary of State - Election Night Results

The 2nd best water was in heavily Republican Stansbury Park, Utah
What does the mayor of flint have to do with the flint water issue? Nothing
It was a appointee of the Republican Governor who decided to switch the water sources. It was the Governors office that ignore warnings from the public and others.

It was the states Department of Environmental Quality who did not treat the Flint River water with an anti-corrosive agent, in violation of federal law.

Six current and former state workers have been charged for willful neglect of duty and concealing evidence, and two of Flint's former emergency managers, who reported directly to the governor, and two water plant officials -- are charged with felonies of false pretenses and conspiracy.

Of course charged emergency manager Darnell Earley did such a fine job in Flint, the Governor promoted (appointed) him as emergency manager in charge of Detroit Public Schools.


Of course, Gov. Snyder has said repeatedly that he was unaware of any problems until the fall of 2015, or Legionnaires' problems until January 2016. But he has admitted that he wishes he'd asked more questions when residents began to raise concerns about the smell, taste and odor of their water immediately after the switch in April of 2014.

But emails have shown he had been advised months before he claims.

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Old 12-26-2016, 03:27 PM
 
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What does the mayor of flint have to do with the flint water issue? Nothing
It was a appointee of the Republican Governor who decided to switch the water sources. It was the Governors office that ignore warnings from the public and others.

It was the states Department of Environmental Quality who did not treat the Flint River water with an anti-corrosive agent, in violation of federal law.

Six current and former state workers have been charged for willful neglect of duty and concealing evidence, and two of Flint's former emergency managers, who reported directly to the governor, and two water plant officials -- are charged with felonies of false pretenses and conspiracy.

Of course charged emergency manager Darnell Earley did such a fine job in Flint, the Governor promoted (appointed) him as emergency manager in charge of Detroit Public Schools.
Exactly.

Now the question is whether the charges will reach up to the governor's office.
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Old 12-26-2016, 03:29 PM
 
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The mayor of Flint is a Democrat who was invited to be one of the keynote speakers at the Democratic National Convention.
What has that got to do with the governor's office which was responsible for Flint's poisoned water?
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Old 12-26-2016, 03:34 PM
 
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I think social media is a good thing in some regards but it seems like the San Francisco and Los Angeles liberals think that bandwidth and an application makes the world around.

Yet, the liberals absolutely hate trades, manufacturing and construction workers.

The liberals do all they can to bring out the NIMBY's, environmentalists and ridiculous housing codes into the equation to the construction industry.

The liberals absolutely hate hard workers who make everyday products. They act like hundreds of people keeping their jobs with Carrier making a living and keeping Americans cool in the summer is in awful thing.

The liberals also want to do all they can to punish the coal workers, oil workers and natural gas workers with their ridiculous environmental regulations and red-tape.

The liberals punishment of oil, natural gas and coal workers has more to do punishing those who didn't spend 8 years of being indoctrinated by crap at liberal arts colleges. They look down on those who actually keep America running with coal, oil and natural gas as opposed to those who sit in classrooms, go into debt and then make a living by consulting.

The liberals also want to burden America's over the road truck drivers with lots of regulations, despite the fact that many liberals sit inside their office suites all-day on Amazon ordering specialty products that they insist is delivered the next day or they have a liberal tantrum.
Alot of it has to do with the rise of the "soft male" and the hipster and metrosexual phenomenon, they seem to dominate most blue metros.The media seems to be dominated by these soft white males, I was coming home the other day after the german truck terror attack and npr had one of the hosts in his timid and sensitive npr voice talking to a muslim woman in america who felt persecuted and stared at for wearing full body hijab covering while shopping at target???
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Old 12-26-2016, 03:51 PM
 
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Exactly.

Now the question is whether the charges will reach up to the governor's office.
The water issue is, literally, a 'third world' problem. A problem that is, apparently, beyond the powers of our allegedly first world Country to resolve in a timely manner.
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