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Old 12-28-2016, 10:32 PM
 
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false

Reagan did NOT support amnesty. but was forced to sign it...amnesty bills have been done over 9 times...nine of those bills authored by very liberal ted kennedy

Reagans ideas on amnesty??? nope he was against it...amnesty has always been pushed by the freaking liberals


why do liberals constantly push amnesty for illegal actions of people being illegally here

to COMPLETE that picture...there have been 9 amnesty bills, 8 PASSED, since 1965....ALL authored by Ted Kennedy

In 1986 Senator Kennedy said, ‘This amnesty will give citizenship to only 1.1 to 1.3 million illegal aliens. We will secure the borders henceforth. We will never again bring forward another amnesty bill like this.’

Ronald Reagan was opposed to illegal immigration and amnesty. In fact, if you do a little research you will find that stopping illegal immigration was part of the Republican National Committee’s platform back then and Ronald Reagan ran on that platform.

The 1986 Immigration Reform Act that rewarded illegal aliens with amnesty was known as the Simpson-Massoli bill of 1986. When first drafted, the bill was suppose to make it a criminal offense for aliens who were not authorized to work in the United States a federal criminal act and that it would be a federal crime for employers to hire illegal aliens.

Here's what happened, the Democrats in Congress refused to sign on this bill unless the 1.5 million illegal aliens already thought to be in the country illegally and would qualify for amnesty were rewarded amnesty. (reason being, if these illegal’s were to become U.S. citizens, guess what party they would most likely vote for ? )

So the amnesty part was added on to the bill other wise the Democrats wouldn't sign on. And to muffle the out cry, the American people were told that this amnesty was a one time thing and would never be repeated again.

Well the bill passed both houses of Congress and President Reagan signed the bill. In the inner circles of the administration, Ronald Reagan was to have said he may have made a mistake by signing the bill.
Guess what ?, it wasn't 1.5 million illegal aliens who would have qualified for amnesty. It turns out that over 3 million were rewarded with amnesty, mostly because of the fraud that took place during the amnesty process. Phony rent receipts, phony pay check stubs, liberal judges expunging criminal records of illegal aliens!!!

And after the bill became law, you had Teddy Kennedy watering down the enforcement part of the bill that had to do with enforcing and prosecuting employers who hired illegal aliens.

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Here is Ted Kennedy commenting on the 1965 immigration bill,Quote
“The bill will not flood our cities with immigrants. It will not upset the ethnic mix of our society. It will not relax the standards of admission.” End of Quote.

In 1994, Ted Kennedy’s Section 245(i) Amnesty gave legal residence and jobs to 578,000 illegal aliens. It was a temporary rolling amnesty primarily for extended family members of immigrants who instead of waiting in line, come on to the country illegally.

In 1997, Ted Kennedy’s extension of the Section 245(i) rolling amnesty was followed by an increasing flow of illegal immigration.

In 1997, Ted Kennedy also won an amnesty for close to one million illegal aliens from Central America. Illegal immigration sped up some more.

In 1998, Ted Kennedy won an amnesty for 125,000 illegal aliens from Haiti.

In 2000, Ted Kennedy got the so-called Late Amnesty, legalizing another 400,000 illegal aliens who claimed that they missed out on Kennedy’s 1986 amnesty.

In 2000, Ted Kennedy also won the LIFE Act Amnesty for an estimated 900,000 illegal aliens. It was another reinstatement of the rolling Section 245(i) amnesty...an estimated 900,000 illegal aliens. Illegal immigration accelerated.


why do liberals constantly push amnesty for illegal actions of people being illegally here.....
no more amnesty
True or not, Reagan opened the flood gates of illegals. Don't blame anyone else for this. He was the president and had the final say. No one forced him to do anything
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Old 12-28-2016, 10:39 PM
 
Location: North Pacific
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He lost the popular vote by 3 million and barely defeated a flawed candidate. He has no mandate and no broad popular appeal but rather is the choice of a narrow and bitter slice of the population that was conned.

The fact that he is the least popular president elect EVER says all you need to know.
I want to know who got paid and how much ...
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Old 12-28-2016, 10:41 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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True or not, Reagan opened the flood gates of illegals. Don't blame anyone else for this. He was the president and had the final say. No one forced him to do anything
the flood gates were opened in 1965...EVERY amnesty bill was written by ted kennedy....


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In 1986 Senator Kennedy said, ‘This amnesty will give citizenship to only 1.1 to 1.3 million illegal aliens. We will secure the borders henceforth. We will never again bring forward another amnesty bill like this.’
as usual all liberal can do is lie

Ronald Reagan was opposed to illegal immigration and amnesty. In fact, if you do a little research you will find that stopping illegal immigration was part of the Republican National Committee’s platform back then and Ronald Reagan ran on that platform.

The 1986 Immigration Reform Act that rewarded illegal aliens with amnesty was known as the Simpson-Massoli bill of 1986. When first drafted, the bill was suppose to make it a criminal offense for aliens who were not authorized to work in the United States a federal criminal act and that it would be a federal crime for employers to hire illegal aliens.

Here's what happened, the Democrats in Congress refused to sign on this bill unless the 1.5 million illegal aliens already thought to be in the country illegally and would qualify for amnesty were rewarded amnesty. (reason being, if these illegal’s were to become U.S. citizens, guess what party they would most likely vote for ? )

So the amnesty part was added on to the bill other wise the Democrats wouldn't sign on. And to muffle the out cry, the American people were told that this amnesty was a one time thing and would never be repeated again.

Well the bill passed both houses of Congress and President Reagan signed the bill. In the inner circles of the administration, Ronald Reagan was to have said he may have made a mistake by signing the bill.
Guess what ?, it wasn't 1.5 million illegal aliens who would have qualified for amnesty. It turns out that over 3 million were rewarded with amnesty, mostly because of the fraud that took place during the amnesty process. Phony rent receipts, phony pay check stubs, liberal judges expunging criminal records of illegal aliens!!!

And after the bill became law, you had Teddy Kennedy watering down the enforcement part of the bill that had to do with enforcing and prosecuting employers who hired illegal aliens.




again what can you count on... liberals will lie no matter what

liberalism (fascism) is a mental disease
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Old 12-28-2016, 10:50 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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True or not, Reagan opened the flood gates of illegals. Don't blame anyone else for this. He was the president and had the final say. No one forced him to do anything
Two things I dislike Reagan for:

1. His freakin war on drugs, so misguided and a total fail.

2. That he would believe Tip O'neil when he made the deal. You blame Reagan, but it was the Dems that held Reagan's immigration plans hostage for an amnesty deal.

The 1986 law was intended to create a new era of enforcement, including strict enforcement of the new law that barred employers from hiring workers who don’t have permission to work in the United States.


THAT IS ALL ON THE DEMS, as in typical fashion they got what they wanted and gave nothing back... they lied! 30 years later and we are still debating e-verify which was what Reagan was promised to get for amnesty!

The irony is that the right are blamed for wanting cheap labor... yet, it is the left that block e-verify!

Why is that?



for votes

AND

CHEAP LABOR

Fk the country constantly and pretend they care!~
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Old 12-28-2016, 10:59 PM
 
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Two things I dislike Reagan for:

1. His freakin war on drugs, so misguided and a total fail.

2. That he would believe Tip O'neil when he made the deal. You blame Reagan, but it was the Dems that held Reagan's immigration plans hostage for an amnesty deal.

The 1986 law was intended to create a new era of enforcement, including strict enforcement of the new law that barred employers from hiring workers who don’t have permission to work in the United States.


THAT IS ALL ON THE DEMS, as in typical fashion they got what they wanted and gave nothing back... they lied! 30 years later and we are still debating e-verify which was what Reagan was promised to get for amnesty!

The irony is that the right are blamed for wanting cheap labor... yet, it is the left that block e-verify!

Why is that?



for votes

AND cheap labor
No this is all on Reagan. Sorry. You are calling him a weak president then for giving in.
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Old 12-28-2016, 11:51 PM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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In every election there are losers. That's just the way it is. Hillary's majority disappears if you take out CA and NY, which shows the wisdom of our founders in creating the E.C.

We play by the rules established by our Constitution. Those rules are not about to be changed, because the wisdom of creating those rules was sound, and proven by the facts of this election,.

This is the only fact that matters: 2/3 of the states voted for Donald J. Trump. That is how we decide our elections. Deal with it.
Oh my. Another of the states rights are more important than human rights people.
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Old 12-29-2016, 04:50 AM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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Proof, please.
Are you really so naive? George Soros is famous for such tactics (just like the paid protesters at Trump Rallies). Or didn't you know that Soros was a primary donor to the Clinton campaign?
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Old 12-29-2016, 04:59 AM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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Really? The country is ruined? Are you living hand to mouth? Don't have clean drinking water? Scrounging for food? Pooping in the woods? Electricity went out nationwide? Cities in burning ruins? Stock market crashed and people are jumping out of windows? What???

Are you sure you live in America? Nothing like that is happening where I live.
Perhaps you haven't been paying attention to the news: Chicago, San Francisco. In San Francisco, the homeless problem is out of control, and people are urinating in the streets. It's a "Sanctuary City," too. There are problems with break-in's, 'smash and grab," etc.

Electric rates have gone up considerably under the Obama presidency, as he promised, because of shutting down coal plants.

Home ownership is at it's lowest it's been since WWII. And, 50% of the workforce is unemployed (labor participation rate), so don't believe the phony "unemployment rate" the administration puts out.

You're living in an alternative universe.
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Old 12-29-2016, 05:04 AM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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I agree, the popular vote doesn't matter because that's not how the president is chosen. Why are you shouting this in the 2nd sentence but then trying to give Trump the popular vote win in the 1st sentence by making some new rule where you decide which states to remove from the popular vote, in order to get your guy the popular vote win?
Because in the states, it is the popular vote that decides the winner! Do you know nothing at all about civics and our election system?
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Old 12-29-2016, 05:15 AM
 
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He lost the popular vote by 3 million and barely defeated a flawed candidate. He has no mandate and no broad popular appeal but rather is the choice of a narrow and bitter slice of the population that was conned.

The fact that he is the least popular president elect EVER says all you need to know.
That's like bragging you shot the most rabbits at an elk hunt.
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