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Old 01-23-2017, 10:26 PM
 
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I often hear people say they love America because it is a free country. But when did this happen exactly? At what point did America become a free nation? Was America free in 1776? Was America free during the 1800's? Was America free in 1915?,1925?,1945? Was America a free nation during the 50's?
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Old 01-23-2017, 10:30 PM
 
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I often hear people say they love America because it is a free country. But when did this happen exactly? At what point did America become a free nation? Was America free in 1776? Was America free during the 1800's? Was America free in 1915?,1925?,1945? Was America a free nation during the 50's?
January 20, 2017
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Old 01-23-2017, 10:42 PM
 
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To be free, someone else must toil on your behalf. In other words, you must control someone else's labor (via money, land ownership, or outright slavery) to be free. In any society, the members of the ruling class are free, because the masses are effectively forced to toil on their behalf.

America is no exception, despite what our elementary school teachers may have taught us. America was never free unless you were part of the elite class. And that's still 100% true today.

Freedom for everyone is a mathematical impossibility. The work has to be done by someone. Freedom is a zero sum game: if I have more freedom, it means someone else has less freedom.
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Old 01-23-2017, 10:47 PM
 
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Not sure, but it's definitely sometime within my lifetime.
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Old 01-23-2017, 10:50 PM
 
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July 4th, 1776.
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Old 01-23-2017, 10:59 PM
 
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I often hear people say they love America because it is a free country. But when did this happen exactly? At what point did America become a free nation? Was America free in 1776? Was America free during the 1800's? Was America free in 1915?,1925?,1945? Was America a free nation during the 50's?
I guess it depends on what you mean by free.
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Old 01-23-2017, 11:23 PM
 
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I guess it depends on what you mean by free.
When most Americans could fully participate in all the things that free people should have the rights to do in America. I really can't see America being more fully free until the 1964 Civil Rights Act.
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