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Old 01-23-2017, 09:25 AM
 
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This seems to be the left's rallying cry. I wonder if they realize how frivolous it is.

Neither Trump nor Hillary got the majority of the national vote (45% v. 48%). Bill Clinton's share of the national vote in 1992 was even smaller, only 43%, and he won 370 electoral votes. More of the country voted against Bill Clinton than voted against Donald Trump.
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Old 01-23-2017, 09:27 AM
 
Location: Billings, MT
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Logic is not allowed in these discussions.
You are sentenced to 15 minutes in the corner on a hard stool.
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Old 01-23-2017, 09:28 AM
 
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Not only that, but a large section of eligible voters didn't even vote.
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Old 01-23-2017, 09:29 AM
 
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The point is that he does not have a mandate.
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Old 01-23-2017, 09:29 AM
 
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Jesus Christ, how many times we have to explain this to you people? He does not have a mandate. More people came out and voted for someone else. This is it a bout Hillary Clinton. It's anti-trump.
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Old 01-23-2017, 09:31 AM
 
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Hillary would have won Guam if they were allowed to vote!!!!!!!
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Old 01-23-2017, 09:33 AM
 
Location: Live:Downtown Phoenix, AZ/Work:Greater Los Angeles, CA
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This seems to be the left's rallying cry. I wonder if they realize how frivolous it is.

Neither Trump nor Hillary got the majority of the national vote (45% v. 48%). Bill Clinton's share of the national vote in 1992 was even smaller, only 43%, and he won 370 electoral votes. More of the country voted against Bill Clinton than voted against Donald Trump.
Hillary got a plurality (highest number but below majority). Trump doesn't have a mandate
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Old 01-23-2017, 09:34 AM
 
Location: Paradise
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I'm not sure the whole "mandate" thing is even worth debating. Is it like the Nobel Peace Prize?


From: https://www.reference.com/government...cb58f5f3b60c4e


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The American people, for example, are said to have given President Barack Obama an electoral mandate because they elected him to office. The people who elected President Obama to office voted for him because they supported his policies and approved of the decisions he said he would make as president. However, there is no formal, precise way to give President Obama, or any president or political leader, a mandate, so voters sometimes disagree on whether a leader has actually received such a nod from the public.
In the 2012 presidential election, President Obama won with 332 electoral votes but, at the time at which he was declared the victor, he had won only 50.3 percent of the popular vote. Some political commentators questioned whether he had actually won an electoral mandate after winning the popular vote by such a narrow margin. By stating that he did not, opponents implied that he had not won enough votes to earn the authority to act on behalf of the American people. Rhetoric aside, it's a common belief that all presidents, not just President Obama, must have popular support from the American people before attempting to realize big policy changes.
Although electoral mandates are sometimes a matter of dispute, and the term can be used for rhetorical purposes, their occurrence, and the belief that anyone with such a mandate should act on behalf of all voters, is generally linked to winning a democratic race, regardless of the margin by which the contest was decided.

In the end, Trump is the President and "his" party controls the House, Senate, and a significant majority of the governorships in the US.


"Mandate" or no, he is our representative and will be able to make big policy changes.
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Old 01-23-2017, 09:35 AM
 
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The point is that he does not have a mandate.
You think Obama did because he cleared the 50% mark, making it to 51%? That seems like a rather arbitrary rule.

49.99999% = no mandate
50.00001% = mandate

You guys are inventing rules to a game
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Old 01-23-2017, 09:35 AM
 
Location: Los Altos Hills, CA
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This seems to be the left's rallying cry.
Not really.

'Donald Trump didnt get the most votes' is more fitting.
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