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Old 01-28-2017, 07:47 PM
 
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Ironic that no one gives a hoot anymore about Trump's onslaught of EO's when the very same people said Obama was the anti-christ or a communist whenever he issued an EO. But apparently now it's OK if Trump does it and is on pace to issue more EOs than B.O. issued during his entire 8 year term.
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Old 01-28-2017, 07:52 PM
 
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Hypocrisy runs rampant on both sides. That's why people are screaming bloody murder that Trump paid nothing in taxes, conveniently leaving out that it was legislation from Bill Clinton allowing Trump to legally get away with that.

If people would get AS MAD at the people they voted for, as they do the people they didn't vote for, we'd have better politicians in office.
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Old 01-28-2017, 07:54 PM
 
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I think your news sources conflated and confused you - perhaps on purpose.

The issue with Obama's executive orders wasn't the number. Some executive orders are 100% legal, with precedent, and even expressly written into laws, etc....While other executive orders are a gray area and perhaps even illegal. Other executive orders set new precedent and expand the federal government/executive branch's powers. This was the issue - are they legal/expanding power too much? Is it worth getting tied up in court over it?


Likewise, the issue with Trump's executive orders will be are they legal - NOT, how many there are.


I hope this clarifies things for you.


To just cite a mere number has no relevance except for vacuous talking points. If Trump signs 100 executive orders for merely lowering flags for fallen soldiers or placing flowers on tombstones - no serious lawyer will bat an eye (only the hyper-partisan-void-of-reason types will complain). If Trump signs a single executive order next week that is illegal - it will be a big deal and rightfully so.
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Old 01-28-2017, 10:12 PM
 
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Ironic that no one gives a hoot anymore about Trump's onslaught of EO's when the very same people said Obama was the anti-christ or a communist whenever he issued an EO. But apparently now it's OK if Trump does it and is on pace to issue more EOs than B.O. issued during his entire 8 year term.
Do you know how many official EOs he has done?
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Old 01-28-2017, 10:19 PM
 
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I agree in some regards. Trump needs to back his ideas up with legislation instead of Executive Orders.

However, Trump has been undoing a lot of Executive Orders too.
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Old 01-28-2017, 10:23 PM
 
Location: Native of Any Beach/FL
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Executive orders with no guidance or proper execution ! !!! He us not ordering lunch!!!! He is affecting people- money- countries - companies- employees !!
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Old 01-28-2017, 10:33 PM
 
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I didn't like Obamas and for the same reason I don't like trumps. Do we want one person ruling by edict?
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Old 01-28-2017, 10:35 PM
 
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I didn't like Obamas and for the same reason I don't like trumps. Do we want one person ruling by edict?
Personally, I think the breadth of Executive Orders should be limited by Congress (for all Presidents).
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Old 01-28-2017, 10:39 PM
 
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Hypocrisy runs rampant on both sides. That's why people are screaming bloody murder that Trump paid nothing in taxes, conveniently leaving out that it was legislation from Bill Clinton allowing Trump to legally get away with that.

If people would get AS MAD at the people they voted for, as they do the people they didn't vote for, we'd have better politicians in office.
Bill Clinton did not write all the tax laws that rich people use for deductions and business losses. Get real. For one thing...Congress writes laws. The Congress was Republican for part of Clinton's Presidency.

If only Trumpers would learn facts instead of Trump-facts.
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Old 01-28-2017, 10:41 PM
 
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Suck it up, he has a pen and a phone now just like Obama did. Get ready to have them shoved down your throat. Elections have consequences - Obama.
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