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Old 01-29-2017, 11:20 AM
 
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People of the right...you should be more afraid of the emotionally damaged and psychologically imbalanced teens with access to guns than refugees. You're all just projecting extreme neuroticism and xenophobia and or racism.
The Muslim countries are the least diverse countries.

You didn't know this did you? Nope I'm sure you didn't.

Facts and statistics elude libbies and lefties. This is always guaranteed.
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Old 01-29-2017, 11:26 AM
 
Location: Pine Grove,AL
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Its been the far left and the shady Clintons with their NAFTA deal that have taken jobs from the American workers and on to China, Mexico, etc. Not the republicans these past few decades.

I disagree with the Republicans making much of American anti-union but at least we aren't getting told to hit the bricks your job has been outsourced to Bangladesh to "stay competitive" under Republican rule like we have the last 8 years under the far left.
The Left did not support NAFTA, the majority of Democrats in congress voted against it. The majority of Republicans supported it.

And Clinton didnt create NAFTA, that was George H. W. Bush.
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Old 01-29-2017, 11:27 AM
 
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Because we're not stupid enough to think that starving refugees are terrorists.

Because we know that refugees are heavily checked and vetted before being allowed into our society; they don't just "sneak into America, secretly get jobs, and then commit terrorism" as the lunatics on the far-right would believe.

Because we know that nearly every single terrorist attacking since 9/11 in America has been committed by American citizens that were either suffering from a form of insanity or were brainwashed by the terrorist version of alt-right media. We also know that every time a white Christian goes on a shooting rampage, it is an act of terrorism even though the media refuses to call it that.

Finally, we don't live in stupid fear of a different religion or people of different skin colors or backgrounds. We're also smart enough to know that we're all immigrants to America and that we've been down this path before regarding unpopular minorities who were going to "destroy America" if you believed the bigots of the time.

Aside from the most obvious one - the treatment of blacks and native Americans in this nation - here are a few other fun links to read up on and remember the next time right-wing bigots start mouthing off about how Muslims are going to "doom America" - maybe they should remember the attitude shown towards their own immigrant ancestors.

Chinese Exclusion Act

Naturalization Act of 1790 (White's only!)

The Yellow Peril

Know Nothing Party

Yes, quite a long history of bigotry towards immigrants here, and Trump-suckers are just the latest sad chapter.
So , the refugees that the U.S. has been getting are different then these ?

Germany on edge after recent violence from asylum seekers - LA Times

https://qz.com/740876/germany-is-roc...ack-in-a-week/

180 offences on women and children refugees in just Stuttgart, Germany | World | News | Daily Express

Seven Migrants Sexually Abuse Underage Girls in German Pool

“Rape is Natural:” Rapefugees in Belgium - The New Observer

Migrants Riot At Belgian Asylum Reception Centre

https://muslimstatistics.wordpress.c...-is-every-day/

I'm sorry, our country is in enough turmoil as it is without adding this into the mix. Why do we have do be the worlds baby sitters ? Maybe if the SJW's put as much effort into helping those within our own borders first , they wouldn't be met with so much opposition.
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Old 01-29-2017, 11:27 AM
 
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Why do complain that the list is only of muslim majority countries, then ask why more muslim majorities aren't included? Either way you would be unhappy.
It's a very important point that many of you keep ignoring, why?

Why is it OK that Saudi Arabia is not on the excluded list, when we are talking about safety, and a MAJORITY of the 9-11 attackers were from there? They are also at the forefront of promoting one of most intolerant form of Muslim practice.

You can't preach about safety with such a HUGE oversight as this. This means personal business interests (corruption) are at play and you all are CHOOSING to ignore it.

How convenient. It just goes to show that all politicians, including playing politicians (Trump) are the same.
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Old 01-29-2017, 11:39 AM
 
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The Left did not support NAFTA, the majority of Democrats in congress voted against it. The majority of Republicans supported it.

And Clinton didnt create NAFTA, that was George H. W. Bush.
Before Democrats/Liberals were chastised for being against globalization and they were criticized for being 'anti free enterprise' and anti-capitalist, therefore anti-USA.

They were also 'traitors' and 'anti- American' for being against the Iraq war.

Now these positions have been usurped and people all of a sudden have collective amnesia. Oh no, the Democrats are the globalists and war-mongers.

These games, conspiracy theories and aggression are out of control and destroying this democracy, it is quite sad actually.

Craziness and obsessive tendencies never lead to anything good.
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Old 01-29-2017, 11:43 AM
 
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Libs:

Given the chaos, rape, crime, and huge political problems that have resulted from an "open door" immigration policy of Muslims (who refuse to assimilate), why do you want to replicate the same situation in the US?

Opposing a ban on immigration from dangerous nations seems to defy common sense. Do you want your daughters raped and afraid to go outside? Do you think a massive influx of unskilled, uneducated people who refuse to assimilate is beneficial to the nation? Do you feel importing people who want to subjugate women and kill gays is a good thing?

If you think this is great, take a look at Minneapolis and Dearborn.
After killing millions (including elderly, women and kids) and turning the entire country into rubble, did you find the WMD yet?
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Old 01-29-2017, 11:45 AM
 
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Libs:

Given the chaos, rape, crime, and huge political problems that have resulted from an "open door" immigration policy of Muslims (who refuse to assimilate), why do you want to replicate the same situation in the US?

Opposing a ban on immigration from dangerous nations seems to defy common sense. Do you want your daughters raped and afraid to go outside? Do you think a massive influx of unskilled, uneducated people who refuse to assimilate is beneficial to the nation? Do you feel importing people who want to subjugate women and kill gays is a good thing?

If you think this is great, take a look at Minneapolis and Dearborn.
Because many of the people who would be leaving said countries are fleeing that danger. In the same way, surely you'd be concerned for the Jews fleeing Nazi Germany? Not that the US was keen on letting them in either. Official policy was not as Jew friendly as we apparently are now, where criticizing anything Israel ever does is seen as anti-semitic.
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Old 01-29-2017, 11:47 AM
 
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Before Democrats/Liberals were chastised for being against globalization and they were criticized for being 'anti free enterprise' and anti-capitalist, therefore anti-USA.

They were also 'traitors' and 'anti- American' for being against the Iraq war.

Now these positions have been usurped and people all of a sudden have collective amnesia. Oh no, the Democrats are the globalists and war-mongers!

These games, conspiracy theories and aggression are out of control and destroying this democracy, it is quite sad actually. Craziness and obsessive tendencies never lead to anything good.
This is a natural consequence of the DLC "Third Way" Democratic way. Instead of pushing for the progressive position, which of course is anti-war and against anti-worker trade deals, this "third way" strategy only leads to massive increase in wealth and income inequality, gutting of worker's rights and labor laws, weakening of the public safety net and pushes far more people into despair and hopelessness. Huge income and wealth inequality and more people being pushed aside and terrible public safet net = perfect conditions for extremism. Deregulation of media also causes free air time to demagogues like Trump. The "third way" and deregulation craze are huge factors in Trump's success.
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Old 01-29-2017, 12:49 PM
 
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This is a natural consequence of the DLC "Third Way" Democratic way. Instead of pushing for the progressive position, which of course is anti-war and against anti-worker trade deals, this "third way" strategy only leads to massive increase in wealth and income inequality, gutting of worker's rights and labor laws, weakening of the public safety net and pushes far more people into despair and hopelessness. Huge income and wealth inequality and more people being pushed aside and terrible public safet net = perfect conditions for extremism. Deregulation of media also causes free air time to demagogues like Trump. The "third way" and deregulation craze are huge factors in Trump's success.
I never thought about it this way but you are so right.
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Old 01-29-2017, 02:08 PM
 
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Because we're not stupid enough to think that starving refugees are terrorists.

Because we know that refugees are heavily checked and vetted before being allowed into our society; they don't just "sneak into America, secretly get jobs, and then commit terrorism" as the lunatics on the far-right would believe.

Because we know that nearly every single terrorist attacking since 9/11 in America has been committed by American citizens that were either suffering from a form of insanity or were brainwashed by the terrorist version of alt-right media. We also know that every time a white Christian goes on a shooting rampage, it is an act of terrorism even though the media refuses to call it that.

Finally, we don't live in stupid fear of a different religion or people of different skin colors or backgrounds. We're also smart enough to know that we're all immigrants to America and that we've been down this path before regarding unpopular minorities who were going to "destroy America" if you believed the bigots of the time.

Aside from the most obvious one - the treatment of blacks and native Americans in this nation - here are a few other fun links to read up on and remember the next time right-wing bigots start mouthing off about how Muslims are going to "doom America" - maybe they should remember the attitude shown towards their own immigrant ancestors.

Chinese Exclusion Act

Naturalization Act of 1790 (White's only!)

The Yellow Peril

Know Nothing Party

Yes, quite a long history of bigotry towards immigrants here, and Trump-suckers are just the latest sad chapter.
Hmmm....................

what about...........

1. the 911 terrorists
2. the Boston Bombers
3. The San Bernadino shooters
4. The Minneapolis mall attacker
5. The semi driver who mowed down pedestrians
6. All of the rapes and crimes in Europe
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