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Originally Posted by rlsolalxmd
Donald Trump and his election is about the transformation of the USA from a large federal power to a confederation of power back to localized factions.
What you are going to see is a weakening of most Federal institutions, a pull back of any diplomacy not business related, and disruption of the government in general. There should be no surprise - he has said this since day one. He'll set up a political boundary (borders) and direct the flow of trade out.
You might think they care about what people think. You'd be wrong. 100 million people rioting would not change the plan.
There are a few possible outcomes;
A) They are successful. America will become re-industrialized. People will work in factories and make products to sell globally.
B) They fail. America will descend into violent chaos, will be quickly attacked, and most likely states will leave as DC scorches the earth to save itself. Make no mistake, DC is not your friend. Like all governments, self preservation tops all.
C) They are somewhat successful. Some people will live in near Honduras like conditions. Others will live like Arabian royals. Large gates and private security forces will patrol large areas, and won't be funded by the government. Civil unrest will become normal, since welfare won't exist many millions of people will live in shacks and what not.
B or C are most likely at this point but no one can say they are surprised. He has said all of this since day one..
All this happens in 4 years? Wow that on hell of a time table. Bush couldn't even do that (any of these option) in 8 years.
"Marie Harf on FOX NEWS is talking about issues I brought up this morning. So it's not just the Left talking about it."
^^^^
She IS the left. Maybe it's the way the statements are written that I misread your meaning. You did not mention that it was FOX that discussed it 'even after her segment ended'. That would have clarified it.
My apologies.
Fox has guests representing the left because, as they say, they are 'fair and balanced'. You are right in that all can learn watching FoxNews.
And the same is true with MSNBC and Morning Joe. All can learn watching that, too. Especially if one wants to pick up on the nuances and spin of facts and be amused (or not) at their version the truth.
Okay I understand. Thank you. I was just so excited that they were speaking about it and that people would not have to depend on MSNBC. Thank you for clarifying.
Trump is nothing compared to the revenge from those we have been bombing and killing are going to demand.
Those who refused to condemn Obama's lies have no standing here. They are the reason we got Trump.
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Originally Posted by ChiGeekGuest
Apparently, this is a gamble he's willing to take. After all, he will remain unaffected by outcomes.
How far back should we go in appointing blame & the accompanying condemnation? Maybe we should 'play the cards we've been dealt' in the here & now, use critical thinking strategies to solve, trouble-shoot or re-solve the most pressing problems & take it from there. Time-travel is not an option.
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Originally Posted by pknopp
It's a gamble we were willing to take for some unknown reason.
I might agree when I see that happening. All I see is the same old failed tactics.
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Originally Posted by ChiGeekGuest
Fear-based strategies have a tendency to use 'divide & conquer' as the major component. 'Us vs Them' 'Black/White thinking patterns' et cetera.
In power dynamics theory, there's an adage, 'A people full of fear are more easily divided & are therefore more easily conquered'.
We've used 'Shock & Awe' on others, why are we surprised? FUD is a tactic & strategy, fear - uncertainty - doubt, it needs countering.
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Originally Posted by southward bound
Events do not occur in isolation. It's a continuum. The left never ceased to blame Bush, and sometimes rightly so. It is the same with Obama. He owns some of this since, as they say, "actions have consequences". The left has been saying that whatever happens now with anything, the Republicans own it. They're relieved, in many ways, that they no longer feel they have to bear the responsibility for some of their actions while in power. Even in his last hours in office Obama signed some Exec orders that were expected to create problems for the incoming President. So, yes, Democrats still own a lot of it and both sides should learn from it -- mostly Democrats who now refuse to cooperate for no reason other than just spite.
Your post echoes that theme of 'let's not go back in placing blame'. Now that Democrats are out of power, 'time travel is not an option'.
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Originally Posted by southward bound
Read it again.
One of those scenarios, not all.
I put in bracket (any of these option) meaning one of them.
But if you need clarification....any one of the senerio in for years.
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