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Have you not been reading my posts? I keep saying either parent can opt out.
Choice cuts both ways.
But the child doesn't get a chance to "opt out." They have to be housed and supported and fed and educated and clothed. So no, neither side gets out of that if the child is ultimately born. Doesn't matter whether the man wanted it or not, once it's here it has to be supported. He can chalk it up to the consequence of having unprotected sex and a woman who didn't want to abort the child. That's the bottom line. You create a child, you pay for it.
That is an entirely different subject than forcing a woman who doesn't want a child to have it against her will. That is a choice of what a woman wants to do with her own body. And a man should never have the final say in that decision, even if it means he is going to be on the hook for child support for 18 years. Tough luck.
Dismembering a fetus in the second trimester is barbaric and a woman who claims to have been raped by her husband but waits for more than three months to pass before aborting is stupid.
1) The woman doesn't want the child, and chooses to abort.
2) The father doesn't want the child, but is forced against his will to support a child he didn't want to begin with for 18+ years.
Nope. Abortion is about a medical decision concerning one person's body. Child support is a financial matter concerning a human being that is unable to provide for themselves and two people are responsible for that child. Two very different matters.
No, because it discriminates against men. They don't have the right to choose to opt out of parenthood like women do.
Neither side gets to opt out once the child is born. After the child is born both parents are expected to support the child. Where the choice is is before the child is born. A man not wanting kids should use birth control of his own and make sure his partner is also using it as backup. Same goes for a woman, use birth control of her own and make sure her partner uses backup.
But that's a totally different topic and you should make a thread about that. This topic is about women who were raped, probably didn't have time to prepare with birth control, certainly had no power to make sure the man was using it and got pregnant because this was forced on her. And then, on top of, her rapist gets to make her medical decisions.
This topic has nothing to do with consensual sex and choices.
It doesnt fall 100% on the woman, though. No baby is created without sperm.
Both parents get the choice to opt out. Choice cuts both ways.
How is that not fair?
What DC said.
You have no argument and you know it.
Once the egg is fertilized it falls 100% on the female.
You refuse to acknowledge the difference in being a parent of a child and incubating a fetus or the difference in interfering with an individuals medical decisions and financial responsibility for your born child.
A fetus is not a child. An abortion is a medical procedure that has 0% liability for the man. Once birth takes place the only way a woman can opt out is to put the child up for adoption which has 0% liability for the man. If she keeps the child she is on the hook for being a parent. More so for her because she not only has to provide financially but also actually be a parent.
Your choice cuts both ways is just an example of the mentality of those who want to use forced pregnancy and birth as a means of control and punishment, "if she can do this, then I get to do that. If I cant do that, then she cant do that".
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