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Old 02-03-2017, 10:19 PM
 
Location: Barrington
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The United States has the right to decide who is admitted into this country. We do not have "open borders." We can ban whoever we want.
You are correct.

To do so, in absence of a specific threat, without an appropriate 360 review, says more about the administration than anything else.

They dismissed prudent execution protocol in favor of a knee jerk execution and photo op of signing the EO.

Then Kellyanne hits the news circuit with her well honed bag of bait and switch blaming media for calling it a ban while ignoring Trump, Spicer and she were on the record calling it a ban.
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Old 02-03-2017, 10:20 PM
 
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If this is true, the Trump Administration can appeal and stop the ruling.
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Old 02-03-2017, 10:24 PM
 
Location: North of Canada, but not the Arctic
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Is there a provision in the Constitution that I don't know of that grants judges powers over immigration?

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Old 02-03-2017, 10:27 PM
 
Location: East Chicago, IN
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If it works, prepare for an onslaught of counterattacks on everything Trump has done. They kind of negated themselves with the "change the rules" shtick.
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Old 02-03-2017, 10:28 PM
 
Location: on the edge of Sanity
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All the left have is a dumb, emotional argument. The law will prevail.
"The Left?" This was a Republican judge appointed by George W. Bush.
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The United States has the right to decide who is admitted into this country. We do not have "open borders." We can ban whoever we want.
Too much spin. This has nothing to do with open borders.
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Old 02-03-2017, 10:29 PM
 
Location: East Chicago, IN
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"The Left?" This was a Republican judge appointed by George W. Bush.
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Old 02-03-2017, 10:32 PM
 
Location: Honolulu/DMV Area/NYC
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Even without getting to the merits, there is a problem with standing here. Firstly, I don't know how the states that sued have standing (how in the world are the states injured here? No one is forcing them to spend any funds, etc., as a result of the order.). Second, courts have generally been skeptical of granting standing to affected parties who are not physically within the United States.

Even with its leftist bent, there's a good chance that this ruling gets overturned in the 9th Circuit. In any event, this ruling underscores the importance of getting Gorsuch approved to the Supreme Court.
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Old 02-03-2017, 10:33 PM
 
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"The Left?" This was a Republican judge appointed by George W. Bush.
Bush appointed all sorts of liberals to the court. Remember David Souter?
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Old 02-03-2017, 10:36 PM
 
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"The Left?" This was a Republican judge appointed by George W. Bush. Too much spin. This has nothing to do with open borders.
Jesus Nancy....the judge is a registered democrat.
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Old 02-03-2017, 10:41 PM
 
Location: Brackenwood
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I honestly don't know, but maybe because this isn't a Kingdom?

The Role of the Supreme Court

"The Supreme Court is the final judge in all cases involving laws of Congress, and the highest law of all — the Constitution."
Citing the role of the Supreme Court doesn't explain how a federal judge in the Western District of Washington has jurisdiction to issue a nationwide injunction.
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