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Old 02-04-2017, 09:24 AM
 
Location: Live:Downtown Phoenix, AZ/Work:Greater Los Angeles, CA
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I don't have a major problem with transgenders using their non-biological bathrooms. It happens even without a law. I would't force someone who is gender confused to get out of a bathroom. That doesn't mean I can't acknowledge you can't change your sex. It's just a courtesy to a difficult situation.

Unisex bathrooms is not the answer and cannot be implemented in certain cities or even areas without major negative consequences. I am NOT comfortable with a unisex bathroom, transgenders or not. It's ridiculous IMO.

The rest is extreme and a distraction to cause people to fight and ignore more important things. Now in Britain you can't call a pregnant woman a mother because the British Medical Association thinks it will offend transgenders. Doctors are now supposed to say 'pregnant people'. Transgenders should be made to understand that you cannot change your sex. This would be much easier than forcing this fantasy world on everyone to make someone feel better they don't have a womb.
Really? Where did you go to medical school? People know that transgender individuals can't reproduce, but short of that, I think a psychiatrist is a lot more qualified to make that call than who ever the hell OnlyCurious is. Try learning about Gender Identity Disorder before you say these individuals should "suck it up" and "play the cards they're dealt". In a lot of cases, a person with G.I.D. who tries to live a closeted life in their birth sex ends up clinically depressed and it usually leads to suicide.
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Old 02-04-2017, 09:26 AM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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Obama turned our bathrooms into a sexual predators dream.
Oh? And just HOW did he accomplish that?

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He also tried turning the military into a pansy organization with Hijabs, and dreadlocks. So glad he is gone.
Dreadlocks! So I guess you believe the NFL is a 'pansy' organization?
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Old 02-04-2017, 09:27 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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I think it's odd that so many Trump supporters seemed more concerned about the transgendered bathroom issue than the investigation into the most heinous attack on our democracy in the history of the US.

Five million votes cast by illegal immigrants (if it's true)? BIG PROBLEM.

A negligible number of men invading little girls' restrooms and claiming to identify as female? Come on. PRIORITIES!

They must really hate America. Shame on them.
You'd think differently if your school age daughter were forced to change and shower with an anatomical male in school gym open locker/shower rooms every day at school. Just as hundreds of IL parents were outraged by having their minor daughters forced to do so against their will.
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Old 02-04-2017, 09:31 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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Really? Where did you go to medical school? People know that transgender individuals can't reproduce
Actually, they can reproduce. They're still physically their birth gender. You're thinking of transsexuals, who have actually surgically altered their gender.

Transgenders are physically males who "feel" like they're females, and vice versa.
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Old 02-04-2017, 09:32 AM
 
Location: Relaxing with animals
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Really? Where did you go to medical school? People know that transgender individuals can't reproduce, but short of that, I think a psychiatrist is a lot more qualified to make that call than who ever the hell OnlyCurious is. Try learning about Gender Identity Disorder before you say these individuals should "suck it up" and "play the cards they're dealt". In a lot of cases, a person with G.I.D. who tries to live a closeted life in their birth sex ends up clinically depressed and it usually leads to suicide.

I know what GID is. You CANNOT change your sex that is a biological fact. You can change your gender. Doctors can and do explain this to many of their clients. Understanding this doesn't mean you cannot identify as a different gender, it means you will be reasonable when dealing with others and the fact that you cannot be the biological identical to a man or woman. This isn't about not having sympathy.
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Old 02-04-2017, 09:40 AM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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Obama has left America in a terribly confused state. You would have thought this issue would have been settled in kindergarten.

Should federal law settle the confused state of the dems? If you got a penis, use the men's bathroom, if you got a vagina, use the women's bathroom. Agreed?

Unless you do some rewriting, all the fathers that take their baby daughters into men's rooms and mothers who take their baby sons into lady's rooms for diaper changes are going to be in trouble.
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Old 02-04-2017, 10:16 AM
 
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Obama turned our bathrooms into a sexual predators dream. He also tried turning the military into a pansy organization with Hijabs, and dreadlocks. So glad he is gone.
See republicans do it too.. it's obamas fault because this and that. No it's the fault of the sexual predators and the pansys. Just like it's not the banks fully or interest rate problems with student loans.

People make poor choices and love to blame others.
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Old 02-04-2017, 10:38 AM
 
Location: Just over the horizon
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You're forgetting about schools.

At this point, this is what's being forced: Allowing anatomical males to use girls' school gym multiple occupancy open locker/shower rooms and play on girls' sports teams despite their clear physical advantage (and much more rarely, vice versa) is forced on every public school child grades pre-K through 12 no actual proof required, this is all just based on what a student says they "feel" their gender is. And the requirement also applies to public colleges and universities. Schools that refuse to allow that lose federal funding.

The Obama Admin "Dear Colleague" letter sent to every public school in the country requiring such:

https://www2.ed.gov/about/offices/li...ransgender.pdf
There were no such thing as transgendered students when I went to school.

There were butch girls and effeminate boys...but everyone sucked it up and had gym/locker rooms with their same sex.

Nobody died.

Imagine that.
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Old 02-04-2017, 10:42 AM
 
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i wish it was that simple...

based on recent events it seems the left thinks its their right to not follow/obstruct anything that isn't their opinion so it wouldn't work and would be blasted on the media and cause more division
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Old 02-04-2017, 10:57 AM
 
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You'd think differently if your school age daughter were forced to change and shower with an anatomical male in school gym open locker/shower rooms every day at school. Just as hundreds of IL parents were outraged by having their minor daughters forced to do so against their will.

Think.

from Time Magazine:

Several states and major cities have supported transgender people's bathroom access for years. Fears about male predators have not been borne out in those places. Police and school officials say they haven't seen it either. The nation’s leading organizations dedicated to stopping violence against women signed a letter saying that this argument is a myth. Sexual assault remains a crime no matter why someone claims they entered a women’s space. If male predators were waiting for alleged loopholes like this to pop up, they could be using the women’s bathrooms already. Some of the arguments about bathrooms are just a cloak for prejudice. Similar "predator" arguments have been used and debunked in the past. Studies show transgender people are more likely to be victims.
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