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Old 02-17-2017, 11:22 AM
 
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WH:
White House Press Secretary Sean Spicer denied a report by the Associated Press that President Donald Trump was considering using the National Guard to round up undocumented immigrants.
That is 100 percent not true. It is false," Spicer told reporters aboard Air Force One, calling the AP’s report that Trump may call up as many as 100,000 troops "irresponsible.
Spicer said he had no information about the origin of the report.

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Nor from HSD internal source for Bloomberg:
A Homeland Security Department official who insisted on anonymity to describe internal deliberations said the memo was an early idea that was never seriously considered.
so the memo is legit, it's just a question now of if HSD and/or the WH were seriously considering it. hopefully there will be more follow-up.


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Basically some old memo ...
we're talking only a couple weeks.
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Old 02-17-2017, 11:36 AM
 
Location: City Data Land
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The CBS Evening News has become a disgrace. Last night's 6:30 news cast was entirely aimed at making Trump look bad. What ever happened to reporting the news without opinion.
Neither CBS, nor anyone else makes Trump look bad. He does a great job of it all on his own.
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Old 02-17-2017, 12:06 PM
 
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The OP already explained it to you. If you can't see what is going on with the media, then I'm not going to waste my time with you.

Nobody is "dissolving" the free press, there are minimal ethical standards that need to be met, many in the msm are not meeting even the lowest of ethical standards.

There are plenty of media outlets that will cover the news fairly, and without bias that can take the place of those that won't act ethically.
The mass media is behaving ethically. They aren't lying. They may not be cutting President Trump any breaks, but ethics do not require that they do so.

There aren't any media outlets that cover the news without bias, by the way. Every reporter, every editor, sees the world from their own perspective, and that colors the news.

And Breitbart has a particularly strong perspective.
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Old 02-17-2017, 02:03 PM
 
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The current President lies constantly,the press call him on it and they are referred to as the liars,fake news, ,like em or not the news media represents the checks and balances within the system,if the President wants to continue to lie and spread bs he's going to get called on it.
If the media stands as a checks and balance........we should be able to vette each one, and they can be elected by popular vote...........
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Old 02-17-2017, 02:15 PM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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so the memo is legit, it's just a question now of if HSD and/or the WH were seriously considering it. hopefully there will be more follow-up.




we're talking only a couple weeks.
A spokesperson for the Department of Homeland Security says that the memo was a very early draft, and the idea for National Guard mobilization was never seriously considered and they rejected it.

That is a internal old draft memo happened around 01/25 and they decided to not to pursue this option. How did AP turned this memo into latest news headline "White house weighs national guards for immigration roundups". Now they changed it to "DHS weighed national guards for immigration roundups". This is what MSM does lot of times. Picks up pieces and creates a some kinda of fake story around it most of the time. Did that memo even mention about deportation? 100k number also not there in the report I think. They just did their own math and added for effect.

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Old 02-17-2017, 02:30 PM
 
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A spokesperson for the Department of Homeland Security says that the memo was a very early draft, and the idea for National Guard mobilization was never seriously considered and they rejected it.

That is a internal old draft memo happened around 01/25 and they decided to not to pursue this option.
the article cites a staffer that claims it was still being considered as recently as feb 10, just one week ago.

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Now they changed it to "DHS weighed national guards for immigration roundups".
yes they did and i agree that the new headline better fits the facts presently at hand.

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This is what MSM does lot of times. Picks up pieces and creates a some kinda of fake story ...
but it's not a fake story, the memo does exist from DHS and the contents of the article are factual.
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Old 02-17-2017, 05:05 PM
 
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I appreciate President Trump's approach to calling out the lying media and speaking directly to the Americans.


However, it seems to ignite more bad behavior in the press and the last 24 hours have been a disgrace.


Whatever Trump does, it will be misrepresented in the media anyway, so should both Trump and Spicer stick to all the work he is doing, stay positive and ignore the tactics of the media?


I figure they will have to report on all the work he is doing, and it will give them less fodder to fuel their toxic reporting.


What do the Trump supporters think?
No.1, you DON'T cow tow to bullies.

No.2 the "MSM" has LOWER approval rating then Congress (and that isn't easy), so why should we give them any of our "confidence in them" or our time?

They have EARNED ALL the criticism they get.
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Old 02-17-2017, 06:04 PM
 
Location: Tennessee
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I appreciate President Trump's approach to calling out the lying media and speaking directly to the Americans.


However, it seems to ignite more bad behavior in the press and the last 24 hours have been a disgrace.


Whatever Trump does, it will be misrepresented in the media anyway, so should both Trump and Spicer stick to all the work he is doing, stay positive and ignore the tactics of the media?


I figure they will have to report on all the work he is doing, and it will give them less fodder to fuel their toxic reporting.


What do the Trump supporters think?
I think they are still suffering for being wrong the entire campaign season. Now people are starting to look at the other issues they write about or talk about and doubt their opinions and their reporting. You know, if they write a story on the cost of carrots increasing, I'm doubting them on that, too. I watch Brett Baier's show and Chris Wallace's Show on FNC and I'm pretty much skeptical of their panel's opinions on everything.

Have you noticed that none of the panels on any of the shows are journalists from the middle of the country? You would think they would have learned from the election. They haven't. Same old DC/NY hacks.
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Old 02-17-2017, 06:21 PM
 
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The mass media is behaving ethically. They aren't lying.
Not true. For example, Thomas Friedman just wrote a piece in in the New York Times which he stated that the Russians "hacked the election". That is an outlandish, outrageous, malevolent lie.
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Old 02-17-2017, 06:32 PM
 
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Not true. For example, Thomas Friedman just wrote a piece in in the New York Times which he stated that the Russians "hacked the election". That is an outlandish, outrageous, malevolent lie.

Prove it- give us facts and figures.

I'm tired of hearing about how anything negative about Trump is a lie. Trump supporters have to start bringing facts to the table. And since y'all think that the media lies, you can't use anything from the media Trump approves of. It has to be impartial.
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