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Huh? I'm responding to your "is it fair that..." statement. "Fairness" is irrelevant. Government should not be in the business of adjudicating what's "fair" or "fairness."
So you're attempting to use an appeal to math to show that something's not "fair" because x is a big number. I'm saying the entire concept of "fair" should never even enter this arena.
Minimum wage is like raping everybody - nobody benefits except for the Chinese across the pond.
Yes, it is that stupid.
Funny how Trump supporters like the idea of no minimum wage. Its a dream scenario for employers who will push their puppets in Congress to flood the country with people from the third world to work those $1 an hour jobs.
Have you 3 taken a course on the Philosophy of Economics?
I have enough credits in economics to have a Bachelor's degree. As long ago as 2002 (when I was much more into economics) I was a writer for a Movable Type blog called Catallarchy where we explored a range of topics from a classical liberal and Austrian School viewpoint. I was one of the culture writers.
I'm a conservative and I want everyone to have everything.
But I want them to earn it and pay for it themselves.
[I am, however, leaning towards single-payer health because insurance companies are complete evil and really can't be trusted with anything as important as health care.]
There are many times in my life that I have wanted something that I could not have it because I could not afford it. That includes children, a house, a car, and many other things. I waited and worked and saved until I could afford to do these things and had the time for them. I paid off loans. I worked 80-100 hour weeks.
It's called being a grown-up.
I'm okay with a progressive tax system, as well. The same dollar means different things to different people.
What you're espousing is what I view as a "traditionally conservative" attitude. I agree with this type of thinking, too.
I do want people to earn their way.
I do want people to be ABLE to earn their way.
I also agree re: single-payer, because insurance companies are like legalized mafia at this point.
Also, I think the tax system needs an overhaul because we cannot wave a magic wand and get rid of income inequality. Some jobs are just worth more value to our current society than others.
We CAN make sure that people are not unduly burdened by taxes, though.
It might not hurt my family to pay X percentage in taxes (or even more), but it could really hurt the family down the road to pay what they are required to pay.
I would rather they pay less and get to use their money to pay their way in their day-to-day lives instead of hitting them for more, then creating a social program and paying a lot of money to have people administer it, just to give them back what was taken in taxes.
It's wasteful spending, and that's something that fiscal conservatives dislike.
A program to get people to the point that they can better earn their way? I am all for that. It's an investment in our ENTIRE society.
Throwing money at a problem without trying to solve it? Ridiculous. Wasteful.
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I was using it as an example. Replace STEM with anything.
But I literally just proved to you my point, you can starve someone and being skillful has no relationship to marketability. If you have some STEM major that has no application to the marketplace, then is it skillful?
Not sure what you prove. Nobody can starve another person legally. If STEM is not profitable, people find other ways.
Minimum wage is like raping everybody - nobody benefits except for the Chinese across the pond.
Yes, it is that stupid.
Ok, maybe I'm ignorant...but why is a minimum wage a bad thing? Is requiring a company to pay someone $7.50/hr really a bad thing? Is $7.50/hr even a livable wage? Are we arguing that companies should be allowed to pay people less then $7.50/hr? I honestly don't understand how paying someone a wage that cant even pay for housing is equivalent to rape.
Ok, maybe I'm ignorant...but why is a minimum wage a bad thing? Is requiring a company to pay someone $7.50/hr really a bad thing? Is $7.50/hr even a livable wage? Are we arguing that companies should be allowed to pay people less then $7.50/hr? I honestly don't understand how paying someone a wage that cant even pay for housing is equivalent to rape.
How is putting a gun on your head and forcing you to pay me a certain amount in any way a good thing?
Not sure what you prove. Nobody can starve another person legally. If STEM is not profitable, people find other ways.
I proved that the valuation provided by the market has no relationship to one's skill.
If the market wants something, people need to have the right skills to be paid period, however this does not mean other skills are completely useless if they cannot be marketable.
Minimum Wage. The problem conservatives have with it, is that there is a balance that liberals don't get. You cannot arbitrarily raise the wage just because it feels good. These are entry level jobs and the rise to 15 which is completely arbitrary will affect everyone because do you think the apprentice electrician who is now making 15 will be happy that the no skill laborer is making 15. It will trickle up quickly. Then you will have employers offering few jobs and what has been a right of passage for teenagers will dry up.
Redistribution of wealth is inherently unfair. Right now the top 50% of wager earners pay ALL of the income taxes in the US. Right now. So lets be honest and say you just want them to pay more, not their fair share which they already do.
Commons - Are fine, just not when the beauracracies get out of hand and the costs don't equal output.
Unions - become corrupt very quickly and almost universally. Would you be surprised to know that in California the teachers union spends more on lobbying than oil, health and high tech....combined!
Healthcare - is important obviously but conservatives do not see it as a right. Meaning you don't have the right to someone elses services without pay. We are all for excellent healthcare, but not the socialized kind.
Some companies are finding that raising wages actually benefits the company. Why not more of them?
All of these companies reported improved customer service, happier workers, savings and more professional candidates seeking to work for them.
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