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We don't, at most we need to remove as many regulations as we can, removing the feds from the market. People thinking we need to replace it are just leeches looking for handouts.
One acceptable way to deal with this whole mess, is to simply repeal the Obamacare mandate.
Then people who like Obamacare, can keep their Obamacare policies. (didn't I hear that someplace before?).
And those who want something else, can switch to that.
Freedom all around.
And since Obamacare is such a great program, as liberals still insist, there will be plenty enough people sticking with it to sustain it. What could go wrong?
Remind me again, why do we need to replace Obamacare with ANYTHING?
Because Obama failed to get us Single Payer. Until we get single-payer health-care, and thereby catch up to the rest of the world, our work is not done.
1. Our healthcare is THE MOST expensive in the world
2. It is the least effective in the industrialized world
3. Both of those conditions existed before (and after) ACA
4. And there is no reason businesses can't continue to offer supplimental insurance for those who feel a single-payer system would not give them enough coverage.
The last thing we need now, is another socialistic big-govt "Universal Health Plan" forced on us. If the last 7 years' disaster taught us anything, it taught us that.
Obamacare is not a Universal Health Plan. It was a wishy-washy attempt to achieve certain goals using private insurance, so as not to be too offensive to conservatives. They should have just gone all the way with single-payer, universal coverage: socialized medicine, like the rest of the civilized world has.
Because Obama failed to get us Single Payer. Until we get single-payer health-care, and thereby catch up to the rest of the world, our work is not done.
1. Our healthcare is THE MOST expensive in the world
2. It is the least effective in the industrialized world
3. Both of those conditions existed before (and after) ACA 4. And there is no reason businesses can't continue to offer supplimental insurance for those who feel a single-payer system would not give them enough coverage.
You made the statement, now.......
Convince me.......
Because Obama failed to get us Single Payer. Until we get single-payer health-care, and thereby catch up to the rest of the world, our work is not done.
1. Our healthcare is THE MOST expensive in the world
2. It is the least effective in the industrialized world
3. Both of those conditions existed before (and after) ACA
4. And there is no reason businesses can't continue to offer supplimental insurance for those who feel a single-payer system would not give them enough coverage.
we are expensive, but not the most expensive
we are also one of the best as far as care and effectiveness
you if you are a taxpayer, could not afford singlepayer
Most who have Obamacare are happy with it. The Republican don't want Barack Obama to be tied to anything successful during his tenure, even if it affects many lives, that's why Republicans want to repeal Obamacare, it's personal.
Obamacare IS unsuccessful because of the fact that upon implementation they didn't want to anger a bunch of young voters so they refused to have an aggressive penalty\mandate to force them into buying insurance.
As a result, the sick and subsidized signed up and the program went into a rate death-spiral.
Of course the republicans will carp about anything Obama did but in this case no, it wasn't successful because it's not rate sustainable.
The republicans don't have to repeal Obamacare to kill it, it's dying on it's own by any objective viewpoint.
Weird. I was a taxpayer under single-payer systems for decades, seem to have afforded it just fine.
Are Americans just incapable of making it work?
oh you think
where you lived..was there 320 million population??? was there only 145 million taxfilers, of which 49% had a zero tax liability???
the fact is singlepayer will cost between 3.2 TRILLION and 5.8 TRILLION per year depending on the level of care (ie a 100% medicaide style...or a 75/25 medicare style of program)...and our government is famous for denial of service (sorry not covered under medicare/medicaide)
that 3.2t to 5.8t will cost EACH taxpayer 30,000 to 60,000
"Remind me again, why do we need to replace Obamacare with ANYTHING?"
My insurance company just raised my rates AGAIN, what in the heck is going on. I can't afford it anymore, we need to do something.
Last edited by elan; 03-07-2017 at 11:30 AM..
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