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Old 03-24-2017, 07:33 AM
 
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Paul Ryan is in a bad way. His bill, Ryancare, which some say was written by insurance industry, is failing. He can't get Republicans to support it because it's a bad bill, and Democrats won't support it of course because of simple partisan reasons.

Wonder if Ryan will survive it politically if it fails. Remember this is same person who ran on the ticket against the worst President in US history in 2012, and still lost.

If by some miracle he gets it through the House, Tom Cotton is going to nix it in the Senate.

Polls: Ryancare Even More Unpopular Than Obamacare and Hillarycare - Breitbart
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Old 03-24-2017, 07:35 AM
 
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It's Trumpcare.
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Old 03-24-2017, 07:38 AM
 
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It's Trumpcare.
Hmm. Nope. It's Ryancare. It hasn't even left the US House.
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Old 03-24-2017, 07:41 AM
 
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You are right this bill is a mess.

We need to get rid of anyone who supports it -- who wrote it -- who will vote for it -- and who will give ultimatums about passing it......I'm with you

Let's get rid of anyone who has been campaigning to pass this bill NOW>
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Old 03-24-2017, 07:46 AM
 
Location: Cape Cod
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Could Trump be pushing this along so Ryan will fall flat on his face and look bad?


I don't know why they are pushing this bill at all when it is clearly not ready.
There is no Republican Nancy Pelosi to stand up and say "lets pas this so we can see what's in it" as she said with Obamacare.

The GOP had how many years to come up with an alternative and this is what they have?

Instead of repealing what we have they should be tweaking it so it works better for more people.

I think there are far more important things to worry about than healthcare such as national security in DC and at the border and putting people back to work. More people working and fewer illegal aliens taking means more paying into the healthcare system and fewer that are getting a free ride on the backs of others.

Obamacare 2.0 might actually work.
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Old 03-24-2017, 07:49 AM
 
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Governmentcare, the party or politician doesn't matter, it all sucks the same.
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Old 03-24-2017, 07:54 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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Reports this morning are that trump is calling individual reps trying to pass trumpcare today. We'll see how effective it is.
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Old 03-24-2017, 08:05 AM
 
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Could Trump be pushing this along so Ryan will fall flat on his face and look bad?


I don't know why they are pushing this bill at all when it is clearly not ready.
There is no Republican Nancy Pelosi to stand up and say "lets pas this so we can see what's in it" as she said with Obamacare.

The GOP had how many years to come up with an alternative and this is what they have?

Instead of repealing what we have they should be tweaking it so it works better for more people.

I think there are far more important things to worry about than healthcare such as national security in DC and at the border and putting people back to work. More people working and fewer illegal aliens taking means more paying into the healthcare system and fewer that are getting a free ride on the backs of others.

Obamacare 2.0 might actually work.
Agreed. Can't believe we actually agree on anything.
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Old 03-24-2017, 08:06 AM
 
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It's Trumpcare Waldo. He's drying the lines in the sand for this heap. Admit it.
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Old 03-24-2017, 08:09 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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Donald J. Trump‏Verified account
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After seven horrible years of ObamaCare (skyrocketing premiums & deductibles, bad healthcare), this is finally your chance for a great plan!

Tweet from this morning - for someone who doesn't want to see trumpcare pass, trump's pushing pretty hard!
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