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Old 03-26-2017, 02:52 PM
 
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If your only solution to improve health care for most Americans is "I can't wait to see the ACA implode", then I'm sorry, but you're just a pathetic, idiotic loser.

Anyone who says that should be put on ignore.

Esp. because everything that happens in health care affects overall economy and, therefore, all of us. And, it's a problem we all have on our plate--the cost of health care. We're all intertwined together in this.
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Old 03-26-2017, 02:57 PM
 
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A small number of Democrats would not risk it. Took only one or two to defeat it. Nature of representative democracy.
The ones that mattered would not risk it. The ones still running the party.
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Old 03-26-2017, 03:01 PM
 
Location: Lone Mountain Las Vegas NV
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The ones that mattered would not risk it. The ones still running the party.

All mattered. When you have a no vote margin all votes are equally valuable. Would have come out much better if they had had some room for a little dissension. The vast majority wanted some form of single payer...but could not hold all the votes if they went that way. And it is to bad some of the more moderate Republicans were not in play.
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Old 03-26-2017, 03:24 PM
 
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All mattered. When you have a no vote margin all votes are equally valuable. Would have come out much better if they had had some room for a little dissension. The vast majority wanted some form of single payer...but could not hold all the votes if they went that way. And it is to bad some of the more moderate Republicans were not in play.
Being as how it was never presented we will never know.
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Old 04-03-2017, 10:15 PM
 
Location: NC
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ACA will continue to fail and the idiots that passed it will be responsible.
but hey congrats to those that got subsidized insurance on the back of my premium hikes!
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Old 04-03-2017, 10:30 PM
 
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ACA will continue to fail and the idiots that passed it will be responsible.
but hey congrats to those that got subsidized insurance on the back of my premium hikes!
I disagree. This was an issue Trump ran on. This was an issue many republicans ran on. Republicans have voted something like 70 times to repeal it but couldn't because we had a democratic president. So this was just a symbolic gesture on their part. Now republicans control it all. They had their chance which should have been easy for them. But they couldn't even get that done. So no, it now falls on republicans and their failure.
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Old 04-03-2017, 10:35 PM
 
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the liberals blindly passed bad legislation, the gop decided this is bad legislation and decided not to pass it, good move by them.

Im totally cool with watching obamacare fully imploding and then making the liberals own up to it.
GOP had 7 years to figure something out, how much longer do they need? Where's your idols beautiful plan that covers everybody and for less money? Did his investigators lose in in Hawaii looking for birth certificates?
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Old 04-03-2017, 11:05 PM
 
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Under Pelosi's leadership the (D) were wiped out in the House. I'll never understand this compulsion to defend her.
Truth has an inherent value - well, to some of us. The rightwing interpretation of Pelosi's words is deliberately misleading. Simple as that.
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Old 04-03-2017, 11:15 PM
 
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ACA will continue to fail and the idiots that passed it will be responsible.
The idiots who ran on "repeal and replace" will be...? Both chambers and the presidency, 7 years to plan, 50some annoyance votes to repeal. There will never be a better time for the GOP to show what they can actually do in the way of legislation. And it is - nothing, it turns out.
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