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You work and you are indeed given a salary. But the government skims right off the top, and you have no choice in the matter. You are basically held at gunpoint to use your labor to keep the scam of big governmnt going just a little longer. They in turn take your money and inflate the living crap out of it, basically stealing your own wealth away from you. How can we consider the income tax anything but a form of slavery? Would love to hear some opinions.
Idiotic comparison that does injustice to slavery.
When was the last time you were whipped?
Had to watch your owner have his way with your wife or daughter?
Yeah, let's just replace whips with guns. You don't pay massa government, and he get's his goons (the police force) to take you off to jail. I think freedom is in having choice. Tell me how you have a choice in paying the income tax
I am a slave to the government in the sense that I essentially work 4 months out of the year to pay them, but our society simply could not function without taxation. Maybe it worked in the 1800s when all you had was a dirt road to travel, but someone has to pay for the infrastructure and services that we use.
I just wish the government would take their fair share out of the paycheck and be done with it. It's ridiculous that many Americans have to pay more of their hard earned money to hire someone to figure out and file complicated taxes. That's all the government is good at doing. Making the simple extremely complicated.
Half the US (give or take a percent) doesn't pay federal income tax.
So to apply your question to those who do, it would have to be reworded, "Is income tax just another form of slavery of the country's wealthiest citizens?"
BTW (turn on irony button...) The nation's first income tax was enacted during the 1860s to pay for the civil war that ended slavery.
I just wish the government would take their fair share out of the paycheck and be done with it. It's ridiculous that many Americans have to pay more of their hard earned money to hire someone to figure out and file complicated taxes. That's all the government is good at doing. Making the simple extremely complicated.
I can agree with this, I'd rather see simple income taxes off the top even if it is at a higher rate, and do away with property taxes, consumption taxes etc...
Right now when you sum total all the various nickle and dimes you pay a larger rate than you see on your income tax anyway, just do it once and be done with it instead of this system where you have an ILLUSION of a lower tax rate than you actually have in reality. Also agree that it makes things overly complex.
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You work and you are indeed given a salary. But the government skims right off the top, and you have no choice in the matter. You are basically held at gunpoint to use your labor to keep the scam of big governmnt going just a little longer. They in turn take your money and inflate the living crap out of it, basically stealing your own wealth away from you. How can we consider the income tax anything but a form of slavery? Would love to hear some opinions.
What makes you think you're entitled to a free ride? You're living in a country founded on different principles of what the government will provide, defense among other things. Who's supposed to pay for that if not those who are defended?
And if that's not to your liking you do have a choice: move!
Go live off the grid and provide for all your own needs.
I am a slave to the government in the sense that I essentially work 4 months out of the year to pay them, but our society simply could not function without taxation. Maybe it worked in the 1800s when all you had was a dirt road to travel, but someone has to pay for the infrastructure and services that we use.
I just wish the government would take their fair share out of the paycheck and be done with it. It's ridiculous that many Americans have to pay more of their hard earned money to hire someone to figure out and file complicated taxes. That's all the government is good at doing. Making the simple extremely complicated.
I'd post a simple flow chart related to the idea of no taxation but I can't find it... the general idea is that people will find things that they want. You don't have to force them to pay for what they want.
Is it valuable? If yes, people will voluntarily fund it. Taxation is only useful for some group to use the state to force everyone else to fund the things they personally want, but that nobody else wants to pay for.
I'd post a simple flow chart related to the idea of no taxation but I can't find it... the general idea is that people will find things that they want. You don't have to force them to pay for what they want.
Is it valuable? If yes, people will voluntarily fund it. Taxation is only useful for some group to use the state to force everyone else to fund the things they personally want, but that nobody else wants to pay for.
This is a completely logical way to look at it. Never even thought of it from this angle, but you have a knack for explaining things in simplistic but digestable terms.
The income tax is theft. Before 1913 we had bridges, roads, schools , and our military might was very strong.
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