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I kinda take exception to the "home invasion" charge too. Sounds more to me like a simple burglary that went wrong. Home invasion makes it sound much worse, but the kids obviously thought that no one was home.
In what home invasion originally meant, it was the act of busting violently into a home KNOWING that the residents are there.
But the way these states are upcharging these crimes, I guess that's par for the course nowadays.
Whether or not they knew somebody was home, a home invasion is a home invasion, the woman and the 3 dead criminals had no business being there.
Pretty sure when you see people carrying a weapon the thought crosses your mind worst case scenario. Unless, of course, you don't believe knives can kill.
And this has absolutely nothing to do with what I said.
What exactly would you need brass knuckles for if you thought no one was home.
So the thought never occurred to you that they didn't think anyone was home but IF someone was, they wanted to be able to take action.
And then the very next post you say this
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Originally Posted by 1AngryTaxPayer
Pretty sure when you see people carrying a weapon the thought crosses your mind worst case scenario. Unless, of course, you don't believe knives can kill.
So the victim can think worst case but not the perps?
I think we agree here. They knew it was possible someone could be home and they would take care of them.
I actually didn't focus correctly on this.
this question isn't pertinent
Q:Why would they take those items the first time? (this is how I was incorrectly talking about the issue)
A: In case some one was there.
this question is pertinent
Q:Why would they take those items the second time? (this is what I assume you are talking about)
A: They "almost had to know", at a minimum, that the chances increased that some one was there.
A "professional criminal" would know, not having a weapon makes for a shorter sentence.
this question isn't pertinent
Q:Why would they take those items the first time? (this is how I was incorrectly talking about the issue)
A: In case some one was there.
this question is pertinent
Q:Why would they take those items the second time? (this is what I assume you are talking about)
A: They "almost had to know", at a minimum, that the chances increased that some one was there.
A "professional criminal" would know, not having a weapon makes for a shorter sentence.
If you read the link about the woman's interview, she and the others had already broken into an accessory apartment/building on the property earlier that night.
She was an accomplice to a crime that lead to the deaths of 3 people. What other charge would you prefer?
How the **** is this even a question?
Did she kill people? No... then you can't charge her with murder. Period. If you do this, you oppose justice and are a worse person than the actual murderers. I actually mean that. It's basically saying words have no meaning and justice is irrelevant. People are dead and someone must go to jail. The ends are justifying means and I don't want a justice system like that. She was an accomplice in a crime. THAT'S her crime. Not murder.
And I'm not an idiot. She won't get convicted. She won't plea guilty and this won't go to trial. This exists as leverage to get her to take a lesser charge but possibly one greater than she actually deserves. That's it's own form of injustice, but people don't care anymore. They see her as a bad person so who cares if we throw our values aside to give her what she deserves.
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