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Democrats are spilling the beans . Amazing amount of surveillance and spying done by Obama, from Merkel to so many other places.
" Hillary Clinton’s former campaign manager Robby Mook has become the latest Democrat to roll over and squeal on his former comrades, telling Fox News Wednesday that he and everyone else in the Clinton campaign knew Obama was wiretapping Trump Tower."
"Former Ohio Democrat Congressman Dennis Kucinich has become the latest Democrat to roll over and squeal on his former comrades, telling Fox & Friends that Obama was a serial wiretapper – and he knows this from personal experience.
Kucinich also slammed the Obama administration for being “out of control with this surveillance stuff.“
“The larger question is, what about the rights of Americans to privacy? We have five constitutional amendments that are meant to protect our privacy. Now we learn from WikiLeaks that things like an iPhone can be used to get people’s conversations, they use televisions"
Former DOD Deputy Assistant Farkas also may have helped spy on Trump for Obama, and says that Trump — not the Russians — was the target, that she was concerned about hiding their means of espionage before Trump and his team came in and found out, AND that she encouraged MORE leaks to get the information out!
FARKAS: “I feared if they [Trump team] found out how we knew what we knew about the Trump’s staff dealing with Russians that they would try to compromise those sources and methods, meaning we would know longer have access to that intelligence.”
FARKAS: “So I became very worried because not enough was coming out into the open, and I knew that there was more. We have very good intelligence on Russia. So then I had talked to some of my former colleagues and I knew that they were also trying to help get information to the [Capitol] Hill.”
Trump claimed that Obama was spying on him and his team, what actually happened is that we were spying on the Russians and his team just happen to be contacting them a lot.
Democrats are spilling the beans . Amazing amount of surveillance and spying done by Obama, from Merkel to so many other places.
" Hillary Clinton’s former campaign manager Robby Mook has become the latest Democrat to roll over and squeal on his former comrades, telling Fox News Wednesday that he and everyone else in the Clinton campaign knew Obama was wiretapping Trump Tower."
"Former Ohio Democrat Congressman Dennis Kucinich has become the latest Democrat to roll over and squeal on his former comrades, telling Fox & Friends that Obama was a serial wiretapper – and he knows this from personal experience.
Kucinich also slammed the Obama administration for being “out of control with this surveillance stuff.“
Dennis Kucinich , was not wiretapped.
Muammar Gaddafi's son was, and that is who was being wiretapped and that is who Dennis was talking to on the phone when the DNI heard his conversation.
You would know that if you had actually watched the interview you were quoting or at least provided a link to that interview.
And before you try to use, Kucinich's defense, you need to know he is wrong. the intelligence agencies do not disconnect when there is an american or congress on the line, they simply redact the names from public knowledge.
Trump claimed that Obama was spying on him and his team, what actually happened is that we were spying on the Russians and his team just happen to be contacting them a lot.
Except that in the clip this Farkas woman clearly nervously stutters out that Trump was the target. Perhaps they did get the information by tapping the Russians. I don't know, AND NEITHER DO YOU, but what is clear is that they had a legal duty to mask the identities of Americans who were caught up in the intelligence, and instead, they are proud (and she brags) of the fact that they leaked them.
So if indeed it turns out that they tapped the Russians to get info on Trump, then he should definitely apologize for mispeaking before he arrests this Farkas woman and leans on her to get the info to arrest Lynch and maybe Obama.
There are two very disturbing things going on here:
1) What is at the root of this is that wikileaks revealed the Democrat party acting as a criminal institution
2) The leaks, whether obtained from direct surveillance on Donald Trump or not, reveal that they acted as such until the bitter end.
Go get them Donald. It is time to stop giving Dems a pass on criminality. Start with this Farkas woman with this clip as being evidence.
One other thing:
3) These three boobs, along with all of the other criminal boobs in the Democrat party, have yet to enunciate how allegedly Trump "colluded." Their story is that when he was broke, he borrowed money from Russians, and that he later helped Russians hack the election in his favor.
How?
Did he use his place in government...oh wait, he wasn't a member of the government in any capacity.
Did he somehow use his money...oh wait, they are saying the Russians gave him money.
Did Trump personally change votes...oh wait, no one is saying any votes were changed.
Did Flynn do something with Russia...oh wait, he was fired because he lied TO PENCE AND BY EXTENSION TRUMP about his ties with Russia.
Did Sessions do something with Russia... oh wait, he met with them in his offical capacity of Senator, at least once with something like 50 other people in the room.
WHAT EXACTLY IS THE ****-STUPID DEMOCRAT PARTY AND THEIR BROWN-NOSED CRIME PARTNERS IN THE MEDIA EVEN TALKING ABOUT?
Except that in the clip this Farkas woman clearly nervously stutters out that Trump was the target. Perhaps they did get the information by tapping the Russians. I don't know, AND NEITHER DO YOU, but what is clear is that they had a legal duty to mask the identities of Americans who were caught up in the intelligence, and instead, they are proud (and she brags) of the fact that they leaked them.
She never said the bold...at all in any ways. I have no idea why you even tried to claim that she did, seeing as there is a video,
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So if indeed it turns out that they tapped the Russians to get info on Trump, then he should definitely apologize for mispeaking before he arrests this Farkas woman and leans on her to get the info to arrest Lynch and maybe Obama.
I understand you are a Trump supporter, but you should have enough objectivity to know what you said isnt even remotely true.
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There are two very disturbing things going on here:
1) What is at the root of this is that wikileaks revealed the Democrat party acting as a criminal institution
That never happened, at best the argument is that the DNC broke its own party rules, which isnt criminal.
2) The leaks, whether obtained from direct surveillance on Donald Trump or not, reveal that they acted as such until the bitter end.
Go get them Donald. It is time to stop giving Dems a pass on criminality. Start with this Farkas woman with this clip as being evidence.
One other thing:
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3) These three boobs, along with all of the other criminal boobs in the Democrat party, have yet to enunciate how allegedly Trump "colluded." Their story is that when he was broke, he borrowed money from Russians, and that he later helped Russians hack the election in his favor
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None of the intelligence people so far have been democrats, they have all been either Republicans or independents who have worked for multiple presidents
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Did he use his place in government...oh wait, he wasn't a member of the government in any capacity.
Did he somehow use his money...oh wait, they are saying the Russians gave him money.
Did Trump personally change votes...oh wait, no one is saying any votes were changed.
Did Flynn do something with Russia...oh wait, he was fired because he lied TO PENCE AND BY EXTENSION TRUMP about his ties with Russia.
Did Sessions do something with Russia... oh wait, he met with them in his offical capacity of Senator, at least once with something like 50 other people in the room.
WHAT EXACTLY IS THE ****-STUPID DEMOCRAT PARTY AND THEIR BROWN-NOSED CRIME PARTNERS IN THE MEDIA EVEN TALKING ABOUT?
1. Arguing that he wasnt in government yet is not a defense.
2. Bribery has nothing to do with who's money it is, its the exchange of funds or services to have a particular outcome.
Why are you arguing that if they gave him money, it would make him innocent. Im not even arguing that he is guilty, im just pointing out that your logic makes no sense.
3. As it has already been pointed out. Pence knew Flynn was lying back in December, because Sally Yates had already informed the Transition team about it. The story that he lied to Pence at least in context, seems to be a lie.
4. When Sessions met with what is described as a "Russian Envoy", there were not 50 other people in the room. Most accounts say there were 3 people.
Good -- they preserved criminal evidence. So much has come to light about Trump and his inner circle's dealing with Russia that even if the Obama administration was spying on Trump, it would be appropriate because they certainly had probable cause.
Yeah, but Obama isn't a judge and he has no authority to spy on people he doesn't like just because he wants to.
Also, Sen Stabenow's body language indicates she doesn't believe what she is saying.
This thread is not what it portends to be. First of all, how old is this news? This info has been out there for weeks. Second of all, there is nothing that even alludes to Obama spying on Trump. We are right back to Russian collusion that the admin was trying to preserve from destruction by the Trump forces in an attempt to get rid of evidence.
Not new and not what you claim this is. Fake fake headline.
If the Trump admin would allow an independent investigation, we could get to the bottom of this. They need to stop the coverup by Trump.
You people keep trying to paint over what really happened.
Obama spied on the Trump campaign because he could and because he wanted to.
And why not?
The polls showed Hillary with a double-digit lead, so there was no chance any of them could face consequences for their actions.
The Clinton camp wanted to get something incriminating, perhaps related to his foreign businesses and interaction with individuals from those nations, to counter Hillary's many scandals and the perception that she was untrustworthy.
The information gathered from the spying would be leaked by friends of Obama and Hillary and any inquiries as to the source would obviously lead nowhere.
Then the unthinkable happened.
At the last possible moment, Trump surged in the polls and pulled out a razor thin victory.
Now facing the very real possibility that a Trump attorney general would prosecute those involved in the illegal spying, panic set in.
Obama knew that he had to destroy Trump's credibility if his friends were going to be able to help cover this up.
Trump had to be made into such a bad guy that it didn't matter what was done to expose him (like spying during a campaign).
That's a tall order.
So the Trump-Russia conspiracy became the way out for some very desperate and very guilty political criminals of a sort even worse than Nixon.
The last minute Obama executive order allowing various government entities to share intelligence assured that anything discovered during the spying would be distributed throughout numerous agencies and leaked by hold-over Obama loyalists.
This massive dispersal also made tracing leaks back to the source almost impossible for an investigator.
So today the story line is that Obama's friends were just trying to preserve the evidence and prevent a Trump cover-up.
Well, perhaps they should mention that at their sentencing.
Muammar Gaddafi's son was, and that is who was being wiretapped and that is who Dennis was talking to on the phone when the DNI heard his conversation.
You would know that if you had actually watched the interview you were quoting or at least provided a link to that interview.
And before you try to use, Kucinich's defense, you need to know he is wrong. the intelligence agencies do not disconnect when there is an american or congress on the line, they simply redact the names from public knowledge.
...until they leak it.
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