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Old 04-02-2017, 09:53 AM
 
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No problem. I'll keep score for you.
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Is that why Democrats control congress, the presidency and 32 state legislature in just 6 short years.

You guys pulled the masks off and opened the entire catalogue of crazy on the American public.
Lol... what difference does it make? With all your big fat victories, you can't even repeal Obamacare!

FOH!
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Old 04-02-2017, 09:58 AM
 
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Lol... what difference does it make? With all your big fat victories, you can't even repeal Obamacare!

FOH!
Glad they didn't in a way-first EOs can strip most funding for it, and change insurance requirements under ACA lightening their load, and ACA is on a "Death Cycle" plan per AETNA with just 12-124 months left anyway.

So we can wait 12-24 months and pass a market based, subsidy free plan. (Freedom Caucus will back that. Maybe write it)

Ryancare was OCare light.
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Old 04-02-2017, 09:58 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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You still haven't answered my question.
Your question is irrelevant. As is the DNC. It is nothing but distraction to cause a diversion.
Deny and demonize didn't work. Now you are going to try deflection. Hahahahahahaha!
Keep doing what your doing, it is working well!
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Old 04-02-2017, 10:01 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Lol... what difference does it make? With all your big fat victories, you can't even repeal Obamacare!

FOH!

Can't, never could do nothing.

I'm surprised can't is in your vocabulary. No wonder you guys are losers.
We got a minimum of 12 years to get it done.
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Old 04-02-2017, 10:04 AM
 
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I know you probably have read the "news" articles about Trump being an outsider but the truth of his connections to the Koch's is well known in political circles.
This from Salon:

" The Trump White House is going to be very, very Koch-y.

During the 2016 presidential campaign, billionaire industrialists and Republican mega-donors Charles and David Koch made headlines by refusing to endorse a candidate. But ads in U.S. Senate races paid for by Koch-linked independent political groups hurt the image of Donald Trump’s foe, Hillary Clinton, whom they criticized while associating Democratic Senate candidates with her. And the massive ground game of the Kochs’ well-known political group, Americans for Prosperity, helped turn out thousands of Trump voters in battleground states.

From the time Trump picked his vice presidential running mate, Koch favorite Mike Pence, the brothers’ influence on Trump World has grown ever stronger."


Whether one is a real estate billionaire or a polished shady politician, the Koch's are not going to let an opportunity get by them, and Trump is simply another "fixture" of political opportunity just as Hillary Clinton and the others were. As Jim Hightower always reminded us--- just "follow the money." Donald Trump is no different than any other party functionary now, a true party man through and through. Trumps is, and always will be--about the muu-nnneee.........
One small detail.

It never happened.

Just like all the other 1000s of predictions of doom and disaster that would befall the USA should Trump be elected.
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Old 04-02-2017, 10:07 AM
 
Location: Here and now.
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Catgirl: You still have not answered mine. What is Democrats path to 270 w/o Rust Belt, w/o those (your candidate's term) clinging to guns and religion per the Democrat that was their last POTUS?
I'm not sure what the whole strategy should be, but I think policies that truly supported labor would be a good start. When it comes to keeping jobs in the country, or bringing them back, I am a bit of a protectionist. What we have now is a president who is not only a bit dishonest about his protectionism (witness the fact that his products are ALL made overseas), but who opposes any increase in the minimum wage, seems bent on doing away with regulations that were put in place to protect workers, and has, in spite of his promises to create a wonderful health care bill that would "take care of" everyone, supported a plan that would do the most damage in states that he won.

I would very much like to see mainstream Democrats distance themselves from Wall Street, and yes, stop characterizing people who hunt and to to church as ignorant rednecks. The thing is, the "guns and religion" comment was just that: one comment. How many hateful things has Trump said about vast swathes of the population, on a far more regular basis? Please do not forget, this is the man who said he could shoot someone in broad daylight and not lose a single vote. When I first heard this, I thought it was hyperbole. Now, I have to wonder, and think that he knows his base far better than I ever imagined.

I do not think that Democrats should abandon their positions on social issues, but I do think we need to get back to doing what we used to do best: acting in the best interest of ordinary folks.
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Old 04-02-2017, 10:09 AM
 
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Glad they didn't in a way-first EOs can strip most funding for it, and change insurance requirements under ACA lightening their load, and ACA is on a "Death Cycle" plan per AETNA with just 12-124 months left anyway.

So we can wait 12-24 months and pass a market based, subsidy free plan. (Freedom Caucus will back that. Maybe write it)

Ryancare was OCare light.
LMAO... yeah, sure you're glad!

Who do you think you're fooling?
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Can't, never could do nothing.

I'm surprised can't is in your vocabulary. No wonder you guys are losers.
We got a minimum of 12 years to get it done.
Riiiiiiiiiiight! You guys are NEVER gonna repeal and replace Obamacare. That's a pipe dream and you know it.

You guys are gonna have so many legislative failures over the next 4 Years!!!

Oh yeah... that wall? That won't be getting done either.

Face it, your party wins elections and still are a bunch of losers.
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Old 04-02-2017, 10:11 AM
 
Location: Here and now.
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Your question is irrelevant. As is the DNC. It is nothing but distraction to cause a diversion.
Deny and demonize didn't work. Now you are going to try deflection. Hahahahahahaha!
Keep doing what your doing, it is working well!
Oh, good grief. I defended my position, yet you cannot defend yours.

I really should put you on ignore, yet somehow I am as drawn to your posts as my dogs are to a dirty litterbox.
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Old 04-02-2017, 10:14 AM
 
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I would very much like to see mainstream Democrats distance themselves from Wall Street, and yes, stop characterizing people who hunt and to to church as ignorant rednecks. The thing is, the "guns and religion" comment was just that: one comment.
Those comments cannot be walked back, because Middle America knew they were heart and head-based (not hyperbole) symbolizing what 21st century Dems think of them. HRC hated them so much, she paid ZERO visits to Wisconsin, just one to Michigan. This is not a 2016, but rather a multi-decade problem for your party.

I see no future prospects who display any honest remorse for the way Dem have trashed Middle America.

In return I see no Democratic path to 270.

PS: BO's comment trashed Joe Biden's base. Think about that. That is deplorable.
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Old 04-02-2017, 10:17 AM
 
Location: Here and now.
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Those comments cannot be walked back, because Middle America knew they were heart and head-based (not hyperbole) symbolizing what 21st century Dems think of them. HRC hated them so much, she paid ZERO visits to Wisconsin, just one to Michigan. This is not a 2016, but rather a multi-decade problem for your party.

I see no future prospects who display any honest remorse for the way Dem have trashed Middle America.

In return I see no Democratic path to 270.
Well, in that case, I guess we'll just have to disagree. At least you have been civil about it.

Good day, hope your skies are sunny.
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