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That is one cool echo chamber you got there, that also gave you Hillary... and assured you she was "the one" One day you will get tired of being let down. Just like all the people that bailed from the Democrat party. The petty childishness is not going to get them back. No matter how intellectual you may think you are.
Do you all ever get tired of this topic? Yes, it is a fact. The Democratic Party veered way of course and is floundering badly. They need to focus on ALL folks who are struggling, not simply minorities. Trump won. The republicans are ecstatic- we get it- we lost and are screwed for the foreseeable future. Some of us worry about it every day. Some of us know, change happens and nothing stays the same. It wasn't too many years back everyone said the Republican Party was screwded. Enjoy this time if you are a republican but don't fool yourself either. Most folks are somewhere in the middle politically. The folks who post on this forum do not represent the majority. As much as conservatives believe "all things conservative" will win out, history suggests otherwise. We will land somewhere in the middle on most issues. But we get get it. You won, we lost. It's your time to gloat- Enjoy it.
I know... The truth cuts deeper than lies. The entire reason for "safe spaces"
There are more Democrats in the US than Republicans, although non-registered and Independents are increasing faster than both parties.
Elderly people are more likely to be Republicans. Younger voters tend to be Democrats. Elderly die at a faster rate than youth.
Democrats gained seats in the US house and the US Senate this election over Republicans. A Democrat won the popular vote for US president but lost the electoral vote.
Democrats do need a recharge and the party knows this. It starts at the grass roots level. Democrats need good candidates to run at the local level, especially in rural and suburban areas. Often there is no Democrat running in these races and the Republican that wins the R primary is the unchallenged winner in the general election.
Democrats also need to come up with an effective plan to increase turnout during mid-term non-presidential years. This is how a lot of the senate/house races go to Rs. The Ds have much lower turnout during these years.
If that were the case, we would not have "The Donald" as your BOSS.
We don't have to. All we have to do is turn out the black and youth vote. Hillary was a terrible candidate who failed to inspire either.
As it stands, the election is over. You guys need to focus on governing now.
I guess dropping the blacks and taking up for the illegals combined with zapping Bernie out of the race did hurt the party now didn't it. And, what makes you think they would ever learn from their mistakes? They are refusing to admit it was THEIR MISTAKE that cost THEM the election.
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I am sure the Democrats don't want to be tainted by racism and ignorance anyways ... unlike the Republicans who will sell their soul to the devil and sacrifice their firstborn just to win an election.
Is winning at all costs worth losing the moral high ground?
If they don't want to be tainted by racism and ignorance ways, it is past time for them to get their act together. Obama wrote off the blacks that got him elected to embrace illegal aliens, I suppose because they have more children (we deliver & support) thus voters in the future or so he hoped. Obama forgot about blacks except for attempting to keep PP in their neighborhoods to fight poverty, supposedly, by eliminating the poor rather than giving them a hand up with decent educational facilities and jobs. Forgetting the black race and embracing illegal aliens, yeah, that will work.
As we know, when it comes to selling their souls to the devil and sacrificing firstborns, we are talking about the Democratic Party over and over again.
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Democrats had a chance to get Bernie but elite liberals went around popular vote and helped polarize democrats.
The Party made a choice, a bad one. At some point, the Democratic Party needs to take responsibility for the loss.
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It's worth noting the ideological bent of some of those charged with governing. They like to say things like, "Government is the problem."
It sure seems so when they're responsible for governing!
But Obama is gone and that 8 year problem is over. Trump is just getting warmed up.
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Yep, that's why we oppose abortion!
Even when it applies to what some might feel are the "undesirables" of our society, as we all know where PP sets up and it goes back to the time of Margaret Sanger and eugenics. They can afford to eliminate certain "undesirables" now, they just needed those illegal aliens votes that amnesty would have brought. They won't be able to eliminate the illegal aliens by pushing abortion, so I have no idea what the future plan is there.
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Who is leader of the Democrat party?
A Beta Male, or is it a 3rd wave Feminist?
When you let us know, we may be able to help you.
Exactly. There is no leader of the party, there wasn't as they went into the election. It appears to be a free-for-all. No one seems to speak for the party and anything in the news has to do with "vaginas", violent acts, obstructing justice, not letting government move forward as they throw tantrums over Trump's presidency, which they enabled by nominating the morally, mentally and physically incompetent Hillary Clinton. Unless they pull it together, get someone in charge that has the power to stop the nonsense the party is associated with, the party is going down, down, down.
Funny that any Democrat would mention "it is time to move on" when it comes to a Republican, but then "clueless" seems to be where they operate from!
If we have learned anything from this election - it is to be more careful of saying something will "never" happen.
You may not have noticed that the republican party was already deeply fractured, and is even more so with trump at the head. He has alienated a whole lot of folks, and it may be incredibly difficult for both him and the assorted versions of the republican agenda to out maneuver a determined and united minority.
It is possible that not only could democrats return, but they could bring with them a satisfying number of independents and disgruntled republicans. And, there is always the possibility that the GOP will finally break up into separate parties for ultra-right, moderate, and, for trump, a party of one.
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Is winning at all costs worth losing the moral high ground?
LOL!
Didn't Clinton get the debate questions beforehand?
Didn't Clinton have all the inside intelligence, NSA recorded phone calls, texts and computer interactions?
Speaking of costs, didn't Clinton and the DNC spend over 2 billion
The DNC lost all moral high ground, buying the entire catalogue of crazy.
There are more Democrats in the US than Republicans, although non-registered and Independents are increasing faster than both parties.
Elderly people are more likely to be Republicans. Younger voters tend to be Democrats. Elderly die at a faster rate than youth.
Democrats gained seats in the US house and the US Senate this election over Republicans. A Democrat won the popular vote for US president but lost the electoral vote.
Democrats do need a recharge and the party knows this. It starts at the grass roots level. Democrats need good candidates to run at the local level, especially in rural and suburban areas. Often there is no Democrat running in these races and the Republican that wins the R primary is the unchallenged winner in the general election.
Democrats also need to come up with an effective plan to increase turnout during mid-term non-presidential years. This is how a lot of the senate/house races go to Rs. The Ds have much lower turnout during these years.
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I think we have lost some young voters, at least temporarily, to candidates who claim to be libertarian, but really aren't when it comes right down to it.
Other than that, I think you are correct.
I know one thing for certain: time will tell. It wasn't so long ago that liberals were proclaiming the death of the Republican party. They were wrong, and I strongly suspect those on the right crowing about the demise of liberalism are just as wrong today.
Personally, I think you are both on to something leading towards functional governing.
As for bold?
I gave up Ayn Rand for Bernie Sanders: How I grew up and traded libertarianism for a progressive “socialist”
Most self-identifying "libertarians" actually subscribe to a bankrupt ideology. What if they all opened their eyes?
Trump is going to fracture the Republican Party, it's already happening. Just look at the healthcare debate for a roadmap to the future of the party.
Trump may, but Hillary not only fractured, but also made the DNC lose many from the party forever. They left over the lunacy and exposed corruption. They ain't coming back.
LOL @ beta male. We don't have alphas and betas in polite society. They can emerge in combat and prison. Which have you experienced?
If you truly believe the bolded, then you are either very naive, or have a very unusual/non mainstream definition of polite society.
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Democrats, you will never gain back those that left your party.
