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Old 04-05-2017, 04:07 PM
 
Location: Native of Any Beach/FL
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it is wrong!!! this is the best country in the world- hubby died for her and so will I-and my sons, if have to-- not happy? BYE felicia

 
Old 04-05-2017, 04:12 PM
 
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I don't understand why there are so many posts saying this exactly. This isn't actually news. People often use the terms democracy and republic interchangeably. Are they different? Yes, but it's also largely understood that a republic uses a democratic process for choosing representatives so it's not necessarily inaccurate to describe the United States as a democracy. There is a process for voting, just not on policy, and this is ultimately the only real difference. I feel the OPs question is interesting enough to justify an answer a lot more than correcting this mistake that's almost not a mistake in the first place.
Since we elect people to actually vote on the majority of things and rarely vote on direct actions, we are NOT a democracy.

When we stick with the actual Constitution, we have the greatest form of government for current times. Unfortunately, that was hijacked long ago. Maybe we can return to it one day.
 
Old 04-05-2017, 04:17 PM
 
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Since we elect people to actually vote on the majority of things and rarely vote on direct actions, we are NOT a democracy.

When we stick with the actual Constitution, we have the greatest form of government for current times. Unfortunately, that was hijacked long ago. Maybe we can return to it one day.
Yes, but it has a democratic process. I'm certainly not saying the difference is unimportant; it is. The phenomenon of using words wrong bothers me more than anyone I often feel, but at the same time, describing the US as a democarcy is not likely someone actually misunderstanding what form of government we have.

As for the constitution... we'll see. That's the best I can muster up unfortunately. A lot of people right now don't seem to really care about the constitution. Legislators and judges who criticize Trump are often called unAmerican, which is ironic, since nothing strikes me as being more unamerican than actually having a problem with the separation of powers. And because someone saying it is inevitable, this isn't a Trump specific problem. It's been around, probably since at least Andrew Jackson, but Trump is the president right now so until he's not the president, it is his problem.
 
Old 04-05-2017, 04:28 PM
 
Location: Florida
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I mean, our nation is over 200 years old right?

And in those 200 years, other Democracies have came into existence, taken our formula and improved upon it.

I don't understand the "ends of the Earth" national pride some Americans feel. Like the country has never and can never do any wrong.

If there is someplace better, why are you still here?
 
Old 04-05-2017, 04:29 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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We have been by far the greatest nation written in human history. The constitution was written by some VERY smart men that have used their knowledge of government, history, and human nature to create something very special.

The problem is, we have people that are so ignorant of it, that they want to vote it away to their own demise.

“When the people find that they can vote themselves money that will herald the end of the republic.”



Benjamin Franklin
Very smart indeed... and a prophet as well
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it is wrong!!! this is the best country in the world- hubby died for her and so will I-and my sons, if have to-- not happy? BYE felicia
We, you and I, tend not to agree on much... but, this we do.
 
Old 04-05-2017, 04:30 PM
 
Location: Philaburbia
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The conservatives sheeps that keep on saying "We are not a democracy, we are a republic"
People usually say that only when they're losing an argument.
 
Old 04-05-2017, 04:36 PM
 
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The United States of America is the best Country of all time. Everyone wants to come here.
 
Old 04-05-2017, 04:37 PM
 
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Yes, but it has a democratic process. I'm certainly not saying the difference is unimportant; it is. The phenomenon of using words wrong bothers me more than anyone I often feel, but at the same time, describing the US as a democarcy is not likely someone actually misunderstanding what form of government we have.

As for the constitution... we'll see. That's the best I can muster up unfortunately. A lot of people right now don't seem to really care about the constitution. Legislators and judges who criticize Trump are often called unAmerican, which is ironic, since nothing strikes me as being more unamerican than actually having a problem with the separation of powers. And because someone saying it is inevitable, this isn't a Trump specific problem. It's been around, probably since at least Andrew Jackson, but Trump is the president right now so until he's not the president, it is his problem.
The problem occurs when the main point is a comparison to say which is best.

When you ask which ______ is best, the answer is irrelevant when the subject is poorly defined.

Which car is the fastest?

Well, that would be the SR-71 Blackbird.

That is a plane.

Just like a car, it has wheels and an engine. It transports people and can go down a street. It burns fuel. It has metal components......

Sometimes words matter.
 
Old 04-05-2017, 04:40 PM
 
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I mean, our nation is over 200 years old right?

And in those 200 years, other Democracies have came into existence, taken our formula and improved upon it.

I don't understand the "ends of the Earth" national pride some Americans feel. Like the country has never and can never do any wrong.
Not only is the US no longer the greatest democracy, it's arguably now the worst liberal democracy on Earth and continues to plummet.
 
Old 04-05-2017, 04:41 PM
 
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The problem occurs when the main point is a comparison to say which is best.

When you ask which ______ is best, the answer is irrelevant when the subject is poorly defined.

Which car is the fastest?

Well, that would be the SR-71 Blackbird.

That is a plane.

Just like a car, it has wheels and an engine. It transports people and can go down a street. It burns fuel. It has metal components......

Sometimes words matter.
Ok, that's fair I guess. I don't disagree. I just feel that if that's all someone has to say in the thread, they probably shouldn't have said anything. At least answer the question after you correct his use of words. That's all I'm really saying. We all knew what he meant when he said democracy (or I assume) so that shouldn't be what dominates the conversation.
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