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This is what I was thinking as well. Which would explain some of her other claims that she was kneed several times, and that some guy tried to hit her head against a rock. Which obviously didn't happen in the video I saw.
My focus was on the actual punch itself. She wasn't holding a bottle at that time. And it is difficult to understand the context behind what was going on, leading up to her holding a bottle, or where the bottle even came from.
Right before the punch, it seemed like she was looking around, unsure of what she needed to do. I assume her boyfriend is laying on the ground, getting beat up, and she felt like she needed to do something. Then "whack" she took a right to the face.
I'm not saying she is a victim. I'm not even upset that she got punched, she should have expected to get punched when she put herself in that situation. I just oppose people calling her a thug, claiming she had malice in her heart.
There is no evidence for that.
Look at post 204 & 205, there are pics of her with the green bottle.
I just watched her interview with a local station and I'm guessing that is the one you saw earlier? She sounds like a sweet girl in that interview and nothing like the girl interviewed at the event where she was dropping f bombs and talking about the revolution.
I don't see how he is a Supremacist but a Nationalist.
"Damigo told the Times that he started reading books about race and identity while in prison. He was greatly influenced, he said, by “My Awakening,” the book by former Ku Klux Klan leader David Duke.
Sometime after his release from prison, Damigo led the now-defunct National Youth Front, the youth wing of the nationalist American Freedom Party. The Southern Poverty Law Center describes the American Freedom Party as an organization founded by “racist Southern California skinheads that aims to deport immigrants and return the United States to white rule.”
If you want to donate to veterans, there are plenty of ways (of which I've done a few times) to do so that don't (at least overtly) send money to a white supremacist/nationalist.
Know all about his past. He is a 2 times deployed Iraq war vet with PTSD who pulled a gun on cab driver he thought was Iraqi...obviously you don't have PTSD or you would understand. So you are against whites protecting our heritage...well that's all I need to know...Anti Whites come in lots of packages they always try to hide their rhetoric.
Look at post 204 & 205, there are pics of her with the green bottle.
I just watched her interview with a local station and I'm guessing that is the one you saw earlier? She sounds like a sweet girl in that interview and nothing like the girl interviewed at the event where she was dropping f bombs and talking about the revolution.
Do you honestly believe she is a thug with malice in her heart? Do you know anything about her? Do you know anything about what she believes?
I never claimed she was innocent, or a victim. All I claimed is that she wasn't holding a bottle when she got punched, and that she has a good heart(although misguided).
I strongly disagree with her world-view, and I think she is naive.
But, being the good judge of character that I am, I believe she can be saved. I'm not sure about you.
Know all about his past. He is a 2 times deployed Iraq war vet with PTSD who pulled a gun on cab driver he thought was Iraqi...obviously you don't have PTSD or you would understand. So you are against whites protecting our heritage...well that's all I need to know...Anti Whites come in lots of packages they always try to hide their rhetoric.
Ehhh???
Uh, I'm white.
I'm pro-American. "Our" heritage is a melting pot of many cultures. That is what makes America such an awesome country.
There is no "white" heritage. There is no "right" way to be American. If you think so, you're being rather un-American. That is why white supremacy is disgusting.
Vets need help, which is why I support donating to them.
This guy is a supremacist douche, though, and will get no support from me (in fact, I'll probably go protest him if he comes back here). PTSD is no excuse for white supremacy.
Do you honestly believe she is a thug with malice in her heart? Do you know anything about her? Do you know anything about what she believes?
I never claimed she was innocent, or a victim. All I claimed is that she wasn't holding a bottle when she got punched, and that she has a good heart(although misguided).
I strongly disagree with her world-view, and I think she is naive.
But, being the good judge of character that I am, I believe she can be saved. I'm not sure about you.
Sure, she can be saved. The theif on the cross next to Jesus repented and was saved.
Her actions have shown malice and she stated on her FB page that she was going to the rally and wanted 100 scalps but you can continue to believe she has a good heart. She's a naive porn actress that throws M80's into a crowd of people.
While antifa came ready for violence, they didn't come with shields and helmets. Though they did come with other weapons.
In fact, antifa was discussing how they should get protective gear, including helmets, in the future. Because their black hoodies/sunglasses/face-masks provided no protection.
I agree that the Trump rally was intentionally antagonistic. They were looking for a fight, and got one(and they vastly-outnumbered antifa).
To the both of you, that picture posted was photoshopped. I've watched countless videos of the girl getting punched, she had no bottle in her hand at the time, period.
I largely agree with her description of the skirmish, although she left out everything that happened before and after, and what her intentions were.
She basically says that, she was standing in the street, then all of the sudden a big movement of Trump supporters came, and next thing she knew her boyfriend was getting beat up, and there were people surrounding her, and she took a shot to the face.
I don't feel sorry for her getting hit, because she should have expected what happened, and she was definitely running her mouth beforehand. But, I've watched several videos of her, I think she is a good girl at heart, just a bit lost, and caught-up in something she doesn't fully understand.
"Tolerance comes of age. I see no fault committed that I myself could not have committed at some time or other." - Johann Wolfgang von Goethe
No, it wasn't photoshopped. Here's the image that Reuter's had on their site:
You will notice, if you look at the web address I just posted, I had to use the wayback machine to get to it. Why? Because they took it down after it showed that she did attack with a glass bottle...and it didn't fit the narrative.
I'm not sure what other encounter it could have been. It's in the same place, same car. I would concede that she might have had a bottle at some point(if not immediately before). But she did not have a bottle when the punch actually occurred.
But as I said before, let us not jump to conclusions, or condemn people, except when they deserve it.
It is reasonable that, if she had a bottle, and there was a mob coming towards her, and her boyfriend was getting beaten up, that she might attempt to use it. That doesn't make her a bad person.
Both sides had weapons, and the Trump supporters even had helmets, sticks, and shields.
The idea that one party or the other is to blame, is a fallacy. Both sides are to blame. But at the same time, I do not believe that the people on either side had bad intentions. Both believe they are right...
"Genuine tragedies in the world are not conflicts between right and wrong. They are conflicts between two rights." - Friedrich Hegel
I'm not saying she was right, I'm just saying that I think she has a good heart. And I'm asking you to imagine what it is actually like to be her. What is it that she actually believes?
I mentioned that she left out a large part of the story. And I agree that she defended the violence at the protest with the statement "Revolution isn't f'in easy".
I'm very angry at the antifa bike lock guy that hit the guy over the head. He was a coward, and he could have killed the guy. I'm not here to defend antifa.
That video has been edited. There's video of the two tussling while she's wearing her hat, and she has the glass bottle in her hand. There's a photo that shows her losing her hat, and she may have dropped the bottle at that point, or maybe she threw it at someone. Then she came at him again...that's where the video begins.
Someone linked to it before this reply that you wrote:
She showed up to fight and got her ass handed to her. She is a shameless little crybaby and needs to get punched some more. People like her think that they can do whatever they want with no consequences and are shocked when they are on the receiving end of the same thing they are trying to do to others.
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