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Old 04-25-2017, 01:25 PM
 
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Originally Posted by FatBob96 View Post
It's the "liberty" part of "life, liberty and pursuit of happiness".

It's a simple concept....like the way your right to swing your fist ends at the tip of my nose.

You certainly have freedom of speech, but you have no right to force anyone to listen to you.
LOL, ,I see you were asleep during history class when others were studying the Constitution.

 
Old 04-25-2017, 01:34 PM
 
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So what's gonna happen if you accidentally kill someone and get charged with vehicular homicide?

If the person lives, how are you gonna afford to go to court and pay out in the tens of thousands of dollars for causing the victim pain, suffering, and pay their medical bills? You can bet some idiot redneck in an early 90s pickup would be the first person to try this. And yes, the condition is if it wasn't an intention to hit the person. Good luck trying to prove that

aside from this bill not passing, just proof positive that Republicans should have their voting rights taken away. Too vindictive, spiteful, and uncivilized to have the right to vote

Looks like whogo would be the first to get the pants sued off of him
Would you prefer that a baby such as was used as an example in the article just die in a vehicle trying to get to the hospital because protestors/rioters are blocking roads? Are the lives of the protestors more valuable than an innocent sick child? Do we just surrender to the anarchists? Or do the protestors who are illegally blocking roads take the risk that they might be ones that get injured?
 
Old 04-25-2017, 02:09 PM
 
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That's not true at all, we had the BLM protests last year in NYC shutting down streets without a permit. That does not give anyone the right to run them over, even when you hit someone jaywalking you could be held responsible.
They had no right to shut down streets without a permit. Just because they did doesn't mean they had a right to. It just means that the partisan hacks in the city administration allowed them to break the law.
 
Old 04-25-2017, 02:23 PM
 
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Would you prefer that a baby such as was used as an example in the article just die in a vehicle trying to get to the hospital because protestors/rioters are blocking roads? Are the lives of the protestors more valuable than an innocent sick child? Do we just surrender to the anarchists? Or do the protestors who are illegally blocking roads take the risk that they might be ones that get injured?
Put it this way. Somebody's going to prison one way or another. Not even an ambulance runs straight through a crowd when their lights and siren are on. So you can try to do the usual appeal to emotion, but when an ambulance with their lights and siren on won't be plowing through protestors on the way to the hospital, then you are SOL son. But, like I said, somebody has to go to prison in this scenario, and that's how the police operate. Doesn't matter who it is, you NEVER mow someone down just because you're in their way or vice versa. But hey, it was a noble sacrifice on your part. Killed someone to save your baby, but then that baby grows up with a father in prison. Choices
 
Old 04-25-2017, 02:42 PM
 
Location: NJ
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So what's gonna happen if you accidentally kill someone and get charged with vehicular homicide?

If the person lives, how are you gonna afford to go to court and pay out in the tens of thousands of dollars for causing the victim pain, suffering, and pay their medical bills? You can bet some idiot redneck in an early 90s pickup would be the first person to try this. And yes, the condition is if it wasn't an intention to hit the person. Good luck trying to prove that

aside from this bill not passing, just proof positive that Republicans should have their voting rights taken away. Too vindictive, spiteful, and uncivilized to have the right to vote

Looks like whogo would be the first to get the pants sued off of him

On the other hand, getting stopped by an angry mob strikes fear in the car's occupants. Some more than others. To stop a car that does not want to stop is an act of kidnapping, a real threat as evidenced by miles of news footage where drivers were dragged from their cars and beaten or killed.


Some poor guy barely making car payments and relying on his car for essential transportation would not apprectiate some dingbat caving in his roof or bashing his windshield.


The likelyhood of a redneck taking advatage of the law would balance out the protesting thugs that threatened drivers and damaged cars. Each situation a possibilty and each should be prosecuted to the fullest extent.


The companion law should address the protestors who block traffic and attack drivers with stiff penalties and mandatory restitution Xs 10.


Lawyers will sue a dry cleaner for 7 million dollars for losing pants so what chance does anyone have with activist lawyers, except to stay home with 911 predialed on the phone.


Yeah, it is a stupid law with too much legal wiggle room and not enough attention to the fear mongering mobs and activist lawyers. Not to say the proposed legislation could not be better worded.


The fear mongering democrats have launched a campaign of hate and violence the country has rarely ever seen. The democrats, like Iranian mullahs are sponsoring these riots disguised as free speech.
 
Old 04-25-2017, 03:20 PM
 
Location: NC
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Good on Tennessee if this passes.
 
Old 04-25-2017, 04:57 PM
 
Location: Just over the horizon
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LOL, ,I see you were asleep during history class when others were studying the Constitution.
Are you saying the first amendment gives you the right to force others to listen to what you're saying?

Mind pointing that part out for me?

If that's the case, the Fox news could force you to watch them instead of CNN.

I could hire a couple goons to hold you down while I talk about my grandchildren..... pictures and all.

Seems like you need a little brush up on the Constitution yourself.
 
Old 04-26-2017, 09:08 AM
 
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Originally Posted by theunbrainwashed View Post
Put it this way. Somebody's going to prison one way or another. Not even an ambulance runs straight through a crowd when their lights and siren are on. So you can try to do the usual appeal to emotion, but when an ambulance with their lights and siren on won't be plowing through protestors on the way to the hospital, then you are SOL son. But, like I said, somebody has to go to prison in this scenario, and that's how the police operate. Doesn't matter who it is, you NEVER mow someone down just because you're in their way or vice versa. But hey, it was a noble sacrifice on your part. Killed someone to save your baby, but then that baby grows up with a father in prison. Choices
Again, we are not talking about a wavier of criminal prosecution for deliberately ramming over people with the intent to commit harm. The law address CIVIL liability when exercising due care. All this means is you can not be sued in a civil court for monetary damages if there is an injury resulting from illegal protesting blocking your legal right to travel.

Who went to prison for obstructing interstate traffic and causing intentional endangerment of a child? It was pretty emotional for the parents of that child when they could not get to a hospital, having to wait for assistance and pass their child off to strangers not knowing his condition until they could finally get past the blockade.
 
Old 04-26-2017, 09:16 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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They had no right to shut down streets without a permit. Just because they did doesn't mean they had a right to. It just means that the partisan hacks in the city administration allowed them to break the law.
You are correct they had no right to block the streets, so TN is attempting to give people license to run them over. People do something illegal each and every day, that doesn't mean they deserve a death sentence.


Controlling protests are very complicated, think back to the protests in the 60's with Bull Connor. Using extreme physical force doesn't end up very well.
 
Old 04-26-2017, 11:58 AM
 
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I stopped to avoid hitting a duck that was standing in the middle of the road. It eventually flew away when I honked the horn at it. I'd probably give protestors the same courtesy.
Flew away because ducks are smarter than democrats
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