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Old 04-26-2017, 05:46 PM
 
Location: United States
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Finally some more illegal executive orders are being rescinded so illegally seized land under false pretenses can be returned to their legal owners.

Trump: national monuments a 'massive federal land grab' | WTOP
Didn't Obama's last land grab right before leaving office include the land around the Bundy ranch?
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Old 04-26-2017, 05:49 PM
 
Location: Flyover Country
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Finally some more illegal executive orders are being rescinded so illegally seized land under false pretenses can be returned to their legal owners.
You'll follow this man no matter what. He could advocate drinking poisoned Kool Aid and you'd raise your cup.
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Old 04-26-2017, 05:53 PM
 
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Great. Another executive order that will get tossed out by the courts. This loser is just throwing everything up in the air and hoping that something sticks.

Oh the irony of talking about "illegally seized land" when this circus/administration is about to do that very thing to build that 'big beautiful wall'
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Old 04-26-2017, 06:01 PM
 
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Great. Another executive order that will get tossed out by the courts. This loser is just throwing everything up in the air and hoping that something sticks.
This time probably not. I'm no fan of Trump. Bit what is, is. Fan or not. Like this or not, this is something he can do. (Unlike other things he's trying to do)

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Oh the irony of talking about "illegally seized land" when this circus/administration is about to do that very thing to build that 'big beautiful wall'
Unfortunately, he can do that also. I do NOT support the building of the wall and I hope the opposition remains strong but if he gets Congress on board he can indeed do this.

The legality of something isn't based upon ones political beliefs but rather, for good or bad, what they are.
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Old 04-26-2017, 06:14 PM
 
Location: Salisbury,NC
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If I read this right, all he did was ask for a review of the lands. Its a EO which means nothing. Just like the other 28 EO's they are meant to deflect and to give the impression that he is doing something other then playing golf.

They are also there to deflect from his Russia problem.
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Old 04-26-2017, 06:16 PM
 
Location: Canada
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Finally some more illegal executive orders are being rescinded so illegally seized land under false pretenses can be returned to their legal owners.

Trump: national monuments a 'massive federal land grab' | WTOP
Seems there is whole lot of Ignorance surround Federal Lands. Why would you even suggest it's a Dem thingy? What a total mis-tatement and LIE you suggest. I will link some historical background for you as it's obvious Alt-right propaganda has influenced your belief system!
The History Of Federal Government In Public Education: Where Have We Been And How Did We Get Here? | League of Women Voters
Jsy the beginning~~ PLEASE READ

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Where Have We Been?

From the very beginning of our Republic, a well-educated citizenry was thought to be essential to protect liberty and the general welfare of the people. Even before the Constitution was established, the Land Ordinance of 1785 and the Northwest Ordinance of 1787 included responsibilities of the nation for an education system. Education has long been considered a national concern by the federal government. Through federal action, education has been encouraged and financially supported from the first Northwest Ordinance in 1785 to the present. Article 1, Section 8 of the Constitution granted Congress the power to lay and collect taxes to provide for the general welfare of the United States. It is under this “general welfare†clause that the federal government has assumed the power to initiate educational activity in its own right and to participate jointly with states, agencies and individuals in educational activities.


https://mises.org/blog/how-feds-got-...hy-its-problem
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The troubles initially began with the Louisiana Purchase which established the federal government as the direct administrator of immense amounts of non-state land. However, the ideological justification for permanent federal ownership really began to gain influence by the late 19th century as many Americans, including influential economists of the time, began to adopt ideologies that saw centralized government as necessary for regulating the economy. We see these ideological leanings in the creation of the Interstate Commerce Commission in 1887 which was initially created to regulate the railroads. Over time, the ICC became the inspiration for a host of other federal regulatory agencies that began to appear by the early 20th century.
https://fas.org/sgp/crs/misc/R42346.pdf
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The lands administered by the four major agencies are managed for many purposes, primarily related to preservation, recreation, and development of natural resources. Yet the agencies have distinct responsibilities. The BLM manages 248.3 million acres of public land and administers about 700 million acres of federal subsurface mineral estate throughout the nation. The BLM has a multiple-use, sustained-yield mandate that supports a variety of activities and programs, as does the FS, which currently manages 192.9 million acres. Most FS lands are designated national forests. Wildfire protection is increasingly important for both agencies. The FWS manages 89.1 million acres of the U.S. total, primarily to conserve and protect animals and plants. The National Wildlife Refuge System includes wildlife refuges, waterfowl production areas, and wildlife coordination units. In 2015, the NPS managed 79.8 million acres in 408 diverse units to conserve lands and resources and make them available for public use. Activities that harvest or remove resources from NPS lands generally are prohibited.
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Old 04-26-2017, 06:20 PM
 
Location: Home is Where You Park It
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Finally some more illegal executive orders are being rescinded so illegally seized land under false pretenses can be returned to their legal owners.

Trump: national monuments a 'massive federal land grab' | WTOP
If you mean the local native americans, I'd actually be for that.
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Old 04-26-2017, 06:27 PM
 
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Some LEGAL executive orders (unlike many of Trumps) are being changed via legal executive order so that lands protected by the federal government for everyones benefit is being handed over to be sold to big business as the 1% needs not just more income, but more resources.

Lets be honest about this. Half your statement is based the original order being illegal, which it wasn't. If it was then it should go through the court so we have future precedent.
If the original EO was legal, how can this EO be NOT legal?

Or are you saying, you're really not sure, but I'll just throw something at the wall, see what sticks?
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Old 04-26-2017, 06:34 PM
 
Location: Native of Any Beach/FL
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Told you all, we don't need to be invaded... We will sell the USA for a dollar. I can invison his fat, greedy buds just waiting and salivating to get their hands on some great cheap real estate ... Bye bye America.
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Old 04-26-2017, 06:40 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Ironic that land-grabber Trump, a worshiper of Eminent Domain, which he used whenever possible to enrich himself, is now calling national parks a "power land grab."

We'll probably end up with as many Trump hotels and golf courses that can he can cram on those lands.

This man is one disgusting president.
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