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Nancy Pelosi never said that Congress hadn't read it before voting. that's a GOP lie that still isn't true no matter how many times it's repeated. Premiums were rising more quickly prior to the ACA. Democrats are not voting to repeal it and that's a surprise? They will work to make it better, not to take away coverage from millions and millions. The Democrats did not use special rules to get it passed, that's the GOP game.
And the one thing the Democrats fail at is ever being able to be as low as the GOP. The GOP can certainly claim victory on that!
Not surprisingly there is a lot of spin on this subject but at the end of the day it was Obamas pet project that liberals passed without gop support, whether the gop repeals it or does nothing, this is the liberals bag to own up to, especially the brain dead "we have to pass it to find out whats in it". great logic there.
Of course when it finally completely fails or the exchange has no options(people in the Knoxville area?) liberal media will blame the gop because they control the house senate and wh and they should have cleaned up the mess that liberals created
Wrong. The US is only best at paying more for prescription drugs.
The US did not have the best health care system in 2000
The US did not have it in 2010
The US did not have it in 2015
The US does not have it now.
The US has been ranked near the bottom of 1st world countries for at least two decades. No idea when that slipped exactly but pre 2000.
Ranked by longevity, infant mortality, etc.
I think he meant "the best" in like a truthy jingoistic manner, like "MURICA BEST HEALTHCARE IN THE WORLD, GO MURICA!" not in a quantitative way so don't go bringing numbers facts or evidence into it cause that ain't what it is about.
What it is about is:
I don't like them guys on the other "team", everything they do is objectively the worst. Where as all those guys on my "team" are objectively the best and can do no wrong.
Nancy Pelosi never said that Congress hadn't read it before voting. that's a GOP lie that still isn't true no matter how many times it's repeated. Premiums were rising more quickly prior to the ACA. Democrats are not voting to repeal it and that's a surprise? They will work to make it better, not to take away coverage from millions and millions. The Democrats did not use special rules to get it passed, that's the GOP game.
And the one thing the Democrats fail at is ever being able to be as low as the GOP. The GOP can certainly claim victory on that!
Sounds like you let some supreme court butt hurt get thru. Good attempt at deflecting but not taking the bait-the subject here is this terrible thing known as the ACA.
Actually she did but someone else has already provided the proof to that, given that there is video evidence of such, its obviously not a GOP lie no matter how many times you say it is.
now look who is parroting liberal media?
i have a great idea. i will work to earn a living for myself and buy my own insurance, you should do the same-how is that not a fair and equal standard? There are plenty of socialist hellhole countries to choose from if these options are not viable, I wouldn't recommend checking out southern Europe or Venezuela first, though.
Sounds like you let some supreme court butt hurt get thru. Good attempt at deflecting but not taking the bait-the subject here is this terrible thing known as the ACA.
Actually she did but someone else has already provided the proof to that, given that there is video evidence of such, its obviously not a GOP lie no matter how many times you say it is.
now look who is parroting liberal media?
i have a great idea. i will work to earn a living for myself and buy my own insurance, you should do the same-how is that not a fair and equal standard? There are plenty of socialist hellhole countries to choose from if these options are not viable, I wouldn't recommend checking out southern Europe or Venezuela first, though.
pure rubbish, but likely you just don't know it. it has been explained a few times in this and other thread, but seems it made no dent in your logic.
here are some solutions
1 buy a passport, use it in a meaningful way and see nations with much lower GDP than the USA solve this and so many other quality of life issues by simply having a more balanced system.
plus you will have lots of fun. they are not perfect, but i can tell you people sleep better.
2 get a book or three spend a few months learning about risk. game theory , poker, swans all that stuff. After a while you will learn how to reduce the not so hidden risks you currently carry but most likely don't understand.
3 Just because you are winning today does not mean you or yours will be winning tomorrow. You can do everything right and wake up to find yourself massively in debt.
4 remember just because you are OK does not mean your neighbor is OK, don't forget to have a heart as you go through this life.
Pelosi cannot speak well. Watch some vids of her trying to answer questions. She was trying to convey "once it gets going you'll see it works". Granted she was wrong on that.
pure rubbish, but likely you just don't know it. it has been explained a few times in this and other thread, but seems it made no dent in your logic.
here are some solutions
1 buy a passport, use it in a meaningful way and see nations with much lower GDP than the USA solve this and so many other quality of life issues by simply having a more balanced system.
plus you will have lots of fun. they are not perfect, but i can tell you people sleep better.
2 get a book or three spend a few months learning about risk. game theory , poker, swans all that stuff. After a while you will learn how to reduce the not so hidden risks you currently carry but most likely don't understand.
3 Just because you are winning today does not mean you or yours will be winning tomorrow. You can do everything right and wake up to find yourself massively in debt.
4 remember just because you are OK does not mean your neighbor is OK, don't forget to have a heart as you go through this life.
Wow thats a lengthy personal attack there, good job on trying to deflect from the topic at hand.
Republicans have been whining and bellyaching about the ACA for 8 years now,they certainly have had the time to to put together a better healthcare plan for America, what have they done? nothing as usual just whine and belly ache and blame every one but themselves for their own incompetence.
Bottom line? as long as Americas healthcare industry is about maximizing the bottom line you'll never have a national healthcare program.
Republican's have control of the house, the senate and the whitehouse.
So don't try to blame Democrats when you can't pass your healthcare bill.
They're already gearing up to start blaming democrats in the news.
Republican's gave Democrats zero help in passing Obamacare but they passed it and now Republicn's are set to blame Democrats because they didn't help them kill their own healthcare bill. What???
How spoiled are Republican's that they want to blame Democrats and complain that their political opponents didn't help trash their own bill?
Are you advocating that the Republicans change the Senate rules to remove the filibuster completely so that they will have the numbers to pass anything?
Obama had a filibuster proof majority and decided to pass a crappy Obamacare instead of a long-term solution like a system France has.
So again, Democrats create a problem and expect the Republicans to fix it. Do you see how retarded that is?
republicans only bury head in sand-- they never pass anything-- unless twist their arms- last night watching how they need to be basically BOUGHT to vote for it- lot of horse trading going on- promises, hand shaking- n LYING !
the whole ins industry needs to stop being FOR PROFIT
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