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Old 05-04-2017, 05:53 PM
 
Location: Midwest
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Remember when health insurance companies would look into your history to find anything that they could call a pre-existing condition to deny payment on your current and new health problem?

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After examining his medical records, the company refused to pay based on a 3-year old-reference to an "angina episode." Assurant said those words proved his condition was pre-existing, despite the fact that follow-up tests in the same file diagnose his "episode" as a case of acid reflux and ruled out a heart condition.
When Health Coverage Doesn't Hold Up - CBS News

Well this practice will be back with the new healthcare bill.

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In addition to rape, postpartum depression, cesarean sections, and surviving domestic violence are all considered preexisting conditions. Companies can also deny coverage for gynecological services and mammograms.
Under New Health-Care Bill, Rape Is a Preexisting Condition

http://www.cbpp.org/research/health/...h-pre-existing

Last edited by jojajn; 05-04-2017 at 06:14 PM..

 
Old 05-04-2017, 05:58 PM
 
Location: NYC
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Fake news.
 
Old 05-04-2017, 05:59 PM
 
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Thank goodness you reported this ...... but you got your Talking Points Memo too late.

Already a thread, it's the Outrage of the Hour.
 
Old 05-04-2017, 06:05 PM
 
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Thank goodness you reported this ...... but you got your Talking Points Memo too late.

Already a thread, it's the Outrage of the Hour.
Of course it's not an outrage to the insurance industry and their paid lackeys in the congress, just business as usual.
 
Old 05-04-2017, 06:08 PM
 
Location: Midwest
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Originally Posted by vision33r View Post
Fake news.
I understand that this outrages you to the point that you hope it is fake news but unfortunately is is true.

These things were all considered pre-existing conditions before the ACA protected people from being discriminated from. Now the new healthcare bill the MacArthur amendment does nothing to guarantee protection from pre-existing condition discrimination.


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C-sections, since they can lead to future health complications, for instance leading to the development of conditions such as placenta accreta in future pregnancies, or making future deliveries through C-sections far more likely, exposing the mother to higher risks of hemorrhage and post-surgery complications.

Sexual assault, as it can put people at a higher risk for mental-health issues and substance abuse. (In some instances in the past—like the case of Christina Turner, in Texas, before Obamacare was implemented—getting prescribed medication like HIV retroviral drugs after a rape has compromised women’s ability to secure coverage.)

Domestic violence, since it can lead to a higher need for mental and physical health care.
https://qz.com/975894/under-the-repu...ng-conditions/
 
Old 05-04-2017, 06:11 PM
 
Location: Camberville
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Originally Posted by vision33r View Post
Fake news.
This was one of the reasons I was denied health insurance at 22 years old. Just because it's uncomfortable doesn't make it fake news. If only.
 
Old 05-04-2017, 06:33 PM
 
Location: Midwest
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Under this new healthcare bill:

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Insurers would be able to charge more to people with gaps in their insurance coverage. And a recent change, the MacArthur amendment, would allow states to waive some of the Obamacare requirements, including one that's relevant to pre-existing conditions. States that are granted such a waiver would allow insurers to set premiums based on health status -- current health, health history and other risk factors -- or in other words, pre-existing conditions.
What is a pre-existing condition? - CBS News
 
Old 05-04-2017, 08:32 PM
 
Location: PSL
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Originally Posted by jojajn View Post
Remember when health insurance companies would look into your history to find anything that they could call a pre-existing condition to deny payment on your current and new health problem?

When Health Coverage Doesn't Hold Up - CBS News

Well this practice will be back with the new healthcare bill.

Under New Health-Care Bill, Rape Is a Preexisting Condition

Amendment to House ACA Repeal Bill Guts Protections for People with Pre-Existing Conditions | Center on Budget and Policy Priorities
Remember when health insurance was your privilege and responsibility?

While its a crappy thing to happen... This is what you get when the government goes meddling in things it shouldn't. It has the power to give and the power to take it all back and then some.

Guess dressing provocatively, and going to places where rape runs rampant (night clubs and roofies) are going to be out of the question. Probably going to see alot of women getting armed. And rightly so...

Should have just repealed the ACA entirely and gone back to how things used to be...

If you choose security over liberty you shall receive neither.
 
Old 05-04-2017, 08:36 PM
 
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Originally Posted by jojajn View Post
Remember when health insurance companies would look into your history to find anything that they could call a pre-existing condition to deny payment on your current and new health problem?

When Health Coverage Doesn't Hold Up - CBS News

Well this practice will be back with the new healthcare bill.

Under New Health-Care Bill, Rape Is a Preexisting Condition

Amendment to House ACA Repeal Bill Guts Protections for People with Pre-Existing Conditions | Center on Budget and Policy Priorities
Please post the actual parts of the bill that say this.

Oh, and add the links.
 
Old 05-04-2017, 08:40 PM
 
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Of course it's not an outrage to the insurance industry and their paid lackeys in the congress, just business as usual.
The other side of the argument is that people want everything possibly covered but then cry about the price tag.

Health insurers profit margins on those policies are generally about the same as the premium tax.

Just giving you the 411.
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