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You can almost say the Federal Employees Health Benefits are like a single payer.
There are a couple of dozen policies to choose from(some are restricted due to union membership etc--letter carriers as an example. These may also be a couple of HMO styles, not certain without going to look on OPM site.
The bulk of the policies available are national in the coverage for the same rate whether Maine-Michigan-Montana.
Hmm! No it's employer's health plan. They paid people less and the money goes to benefits.
The current system isn't sustainable. Single payer theoretically would be better. Once our corrupt politicians get involved though...it becomes doubtful.
Single payer. 6% employee 6% employer. Covers dollars 1 to 200 and dollars 2700+. Double for families. Everyone on it, even unions and congress. It doesnt make care free but no more ruined for life million dollar bills.
Private sector can provide gap insurance if you want it.
Make sure you understand what single payer means. Only 4 countries in the world have single payer. I think Britain is one of them.
Of course they do, and this conversation is a broken record. It's just that silly liberal math. Any middle class family living in a high cost of living area, would end up paying anywhere from $8k to $10k a year more for health care thanks to the income taxes in those larger countries like the UK, Germany, and France.. And I'm guessing they're not going to go for that. Most people just get into cherry picking when it comes to this conversation. It's not even worth an argument. But now that you brought it up, your thread will end up being about 20 pages long or more. And it all will be nothing but gibberish. The only people that would benefit from single payer are the 10% in this country that are not covered by either a government plan or their employers plan.
More like 4% with pre-existing conditions without government or employers plan.
Which onerous regulations on the health care industry does the US have that Australia and the UK do not have?
The health of the US population isnt the issue. The UK is the second least healthiest country in the developed world. Very overweight. And....pretty much the lowest health care costs in the developed world. Australia is also rock bottom when it comes to costs while being much fatter than most other developed countries.
You forgot the public transportation in UK makes everybody walk by design. My in laws used very little of the healthcare system in the U.K. Only the last two years of their lives.
The average of Joe Sixpack and Bill Gates is $1 billion per year. Its meaningless to argue that $7 an hour Alabama McDonalds workers should accept a 35% sales tax because $18 an hour Danish McDonalds workers accept a 25% sales tax.
Financially sustainable, where major insurers do not leave, as they have been for a long time. Where they do not lose their shirt on ACA until they wise up and flee.
You forgot the public transportation in UK makes everybody walk by design. My in laws used very little of the healthcare system in the U.K. Only the last two years of their lives.
Notice how Australia has 28.6% obesity rate, UK is similar, America has a 33.7% obesity rate and Japan has a 3.3% obesity rate.
So Australia and UK are similar, America slightly higher, Japan on another planet.
What about health care costs in these countries? There is no link to obesity at all. Australia and New Zealand have pretty much the lowest health care costs in the developed world. Their obesity rates are some of the highest in the developed world.
You guys are just clutching at straws trying to defend the current corrupt system we have. Why do you carry their water? The lobbyists and insurance corporations dont care about you. Why do you care so much about them?
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