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Old 05-12-2017, 03:17 PM
 
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Trump's deal with China announced today exports natural gas to China, at the expense of the coal industry.

Trump

 
Old 05-12-2017, 03:18 PM
 
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Maga!
 
Old 05-12-2017, 03:24 PM
 
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Look at the other side-with more demand natural gas prices might rise domestically, and coal would be more viable domestically.

Maybe user thecoalman will pop in and comment-this is his specialty, and he has more then a opinion, he has a opinion based on a ton of experience.
 
Old 05-12-2017, 03:29 PM
 
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Look at the other side-with more demand natural gas prices might rise domestically, and coal would be more viable domestically.

Maybe user thecoalman will pop in and comment-this is his specialty, and he has more then a opinion, he has a opinion based on a ton of experience.
I'm no natural gas specialist, but I can't believe that people are going to be happy about higher prices for domestic natural gas. As far as coal being a more viable substitute, how many homeowners honestly want to install coal heating systems, or retrofit older systems to accommodate it?
 
Old 05-12-2017, 03:32 PM
 
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I'm no natural gas specialist, but I can't believe that people are going to be happy about higher prices for domestic natural gas. As far as coal being a more viable substitute, how many homeowners honestly want to install coal heating systems, or retrofit older systems to accommodate it?
This is why trump supporters, like those in the coal states, are just so stupid to buy into trumps rhetorics. Just stupid.
 
Old 05-12-2017, 03:39 PM
 
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Trump's deal with China announced today exports natural gas to China, at the expense of the coal industry.

Trump

Let's sit back and watch Trumpeters try to spin this as a win.

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Old 05-12-2017, 03:43 PM
 
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I'm no natural gas specialist, but I can't believe that people are going to be happy about higher prices for domestic natural gas. As far as coal being a more viable substitute, how many homeowners honestly want to install coal heating systems, or retrofit older systems to accommodate it?
Coal is used for coal powered electrical plants, we're not considering coal heating systems. This is a more complex topic then most folks think.
 
Old 05-12-2017, 05:10 PM
 
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I'm no natural gas specialist, but I can't believe that people are going to be happy about higher prices for domestic natural gas. As far as coal being a more viable substitute, how many homeowners honestly want to install coal heating systems, or retrofit older systems to accommodate it?
Coal is widely used to generate electrical power in China. However it causes air pollution.
 
Old 05-12-2017, 05:14 PM
 
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I'm no natural gas specialist, but I can't believe that people are going to be happy about higher prices for domestic natural gas. As far as coal being a more viable substitute, how many homeowners honestly want to install coal heating systems, or retrofit older systems to accommodate it?

Outside of a few areas mostly not served by natural gas pipelines, and or where using oil or other means of heating is too expensive for a household, few burn coal for home heating and or domestic hot water today.


Residents of certain northeast states and or down through the Appalachia region burn coal for heating. But again often you find it is because natural gas isn't available, propane and or heating oil is too expensive for household budget. Whereas coal, even the "good" clean burning hard variety is plentiful and relatively inexpensive. Burning Coal at Home Is Making a Comeback - The New York Times


Last time there was major serious uptick in homeowners going to coal was when heating oil prices spiked *and* natural gas did as well. This was before fracking brought about so much NG that supplies are no plentiful now it can almost be called a glut.

That being said there are still plenty of buildings both large and small that still have their original coal fired boilers. The things have been retrofitted to burn oil or natural gas however and the supporting apparatus for coal (bins, damper controls, stokers, etc...) have long been either removed or adjusted to suit oil/natural gas.


New York City's public school system still had coal burning boilers late as 1995, and didn't totally get shot of it until 2001.


Time Stands Still in Some School Boiler Rooms - Oil vs. Gas Heat? About a Quarter of Schools Across the City Are Still Burning Coal - NYTimes.com


As Winter Fades, School's Coal Furnaces Die Out - The New York Times
 
Old 05-12-2017, 05:20 PM
 
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We are attempting to help clean the earth's air. China is one of the worst polluters with all their coal fired power plants. Natural gas will help. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coal_in_China
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