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Old 05-25-2017, 06:33 AM
 
Location: USA
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We're starting to see the 1st ramifications of the Black Lives Matter scandal, and its exactly as some predicted. A hidden agenda by those in power, to push their special interest. In this particular case, education is affected.

I'm not an expert on the topic, but I remember people's stances, and what they're saying. It was always rumoured that McKesson was a TFA shill, and they in fact promoted him and paid him early on. $10,000. Well, after fraudulently promoting himself as a BLM leader and sabotaging The Movement, he was given a job as director of human capital for Baltimore public schools.

1st budget comes out and guess what? EXACTLY an $150 per student increase in funding for Charter Schools. And exactly a $150 decrease per student for public schools.


We've seen this guy lie, steal, and sabotage before, but now an entire city is being affected. Most of this because of the Black Lives Matter scam, and special interests. Check out what residents are saying in the comments section.

Baltimore school board approves budget; administrators prepare list of layoffs - Baltimore Sun


This is the guy who DNC Chair Tom Perez is working with. A fraud who was ran out of Ferguson, slapped by the founder of the movement for black lives, and sabotaged the largest youth movement, The Movement, in the country at the time.



Thoughts?

Are Charter schools that bad? Is the DNC able to be saved? Does every community feel this disconnected from its leadership? Was it always this bad?

 
Old 05-25-2017, 07:03 AM
 
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"The layoffs would affect school librarians, guidance counselors and assistant principals..", i.e., excess baggage.

No Democrat would take money out of UFT/NEA schools and give it to Charter Schools. Someone screwed up the story.
 
Old 05-25-2017, 07:06 AM
 
Location: 500 miles from home
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Originally Posted by Gtownoe View Post
We're starting to see the 1st ramifications of the Black Lives Matter scandal, and its exactly as some predicted. A hidden agenda by those in power, to push their special interest. In this particular case, education is affected.

I'm not an expert on the topic, but I remember people's stances, and what they're saying. It was always rumoured that McKesson was a TFA shill, and they in fact promoted him and paid him early on. $10,000. Well, after fraudulently promoting himself as a BLM leader and sabotaging The Movement, he was given a job as director of human capital for Baltimore public schools.

1st budget comes out and guess what? EXACTLY an $150 per student increase in funding for Charter Schools. And exactly a $150 decrease per student for public schools.


We've seen this guy lie, steal, and sabotage before, but now an entire city is being affected. Most of this because of the Black Lives Matter scam, and special interests. Check out what residents are saying in the comments section.

Baltimore school board approves budget; administrators prepare list of layoffs - Baltimore Sun


This is the guy who DNC Chair Tom Perez is working with. A fraud who was ran out of Ferguson, slapped by the founder of the movement for black lives, and sabotaged the largest youth movement, The Movement, in the country at the time.



Thoughts?

Are Charter schools that bad? Is the DNC able to be saved? Does every community feel this disconnected from its leadership? Was it always this bad?

Sounds like EXACTLY what Secretary of Education, Betsy Devos, wants. It's what the Republicans ALWAYS want.
 
Old 05-25-2017, 07:09 AM
 
Location: Born & Raised DC > Carolinas > Seattle > Denver
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Referring to somebody as "the liar" in your thread title doesn't help you make your case, it just makes you look biased.

Just sayin'.
 
Old 05-25-2017, 07:38 AM
 
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I had to do some reading up on your local Baltimore story.

You accuse McKesson of being a TFA shill. The main criticism of TFA (Teach for America) is that they help well meaning and subject qualified university grads become inner-city teachers but that they don't have teaching degrees or prior teaching experience, and come in at lower pay.
"There is an elitist overtone to the structure of TFA, a belief that the best and the brightest can make a difference in the lives of children who are less fortunate, even when they are not professionally prepared to do so." & "Teach For America brings in "the least-prepared and the least-experienced teachers" into low-income schools and makes them "the teacher of record."

I don't follow this argument in relation to charter schools as public schools typically have higher, and more experience and & teaching degree & paper based , hiring practices while charter schools can hire who they want. I know a Christian charter school that hires well meaning but subject and teaching unqualified teachers from it's congregation.

Note that charter schools can be created by anyone - including BLM, lefties, and church groups. Charter schools can hire anyone - including low paid church members and low paid TFA's - with budget being the main driver . There is no reason to believe that charter schools are "the solution" and universally better than public schools.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teach_For_America
 
Old 05-25-2017, 08:22 AM
 
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"The layoffs would affect school librarians, guidance counselors and assistant principals..", i.e., excess baggage.

No Democrat would take money out of UFT/NEA schools and give it to Charter Schools. Someone screwed up the story.
Do you mind explaining UFT and NEA schools? Also, this guy is a "corporatist." A neoliberal according to the public's definition.

It was said when he started protesting in Ferguson he was really a TFA trojan horse. In reality, it looks like he was, and we know he's a fraud who claimed he started 'The Movement,' things in Ferguson, and Black Lives Matter. He worked with Twitter, media, and the DNC to sabotage the grassroots and help prop the BLM brand.

I wouldn't put anything past certain people.
 
Old 05-25-2017, 08:25 AM
 
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Referring to somebody as "the liar" in your thread title doesn't help you make your case, it just makes you look biased.

Just sayin'.
DNC thought so too. He was the guy revealed in the WikiLeaks to be a DNC surrogate providing "updates" about The Movement which were later used to sabotage everything.

He lied about representing or being affiliated with The Movement.
He lied about starting things in Ferguson, or being a leader.
He lied about being a Black Lives Matter founder.
He lied about being affiliated with George Soros.




He's a habitual liar. Thief. And Con artist. Even the DNC thinks so. From the leaks...

https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/1196

· DeRay McKesson Tweets – Then Deletes – Claim That Virginia Shooter Was White: “Black Lives Matter activist DeRay McKesson continued his pattern of jumping to conclusions and getting his facts wrong on Wednesday when he tweeted out to his 200,000 followers that the man who fatally shot a TV reporter and cameraman in Virginia was white.

McKesson quibbled with initial reports that the shooter — who had not been identified at the time — was a disgruntled ex-employee. The activist, who began touring the country as an organized protester after the Michael Brown shooting last year, appeared to believe that the shooter was white. He compared the initial reports to how Muslims are characterized as “terrorists” following similar incidents.

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McKesson deleted the tweet after the shooter was identified as Vester Lee Flanagan, a 41-year-old black man. He later acknowledged his incorrect tweet laying blame on false reports, but did not offer an apology.

…Ironically, earlier on Wednesday, McKesson appeared on C-SPAN’s “Washington Journal” to talk about his activism and the Black Lives Matter movement and scolded a critical caller for not getting her facts correct.

The caller argued that McKesson should focus more on cases of so-called black-on-black crime.

McKesson himself has been accused of playing fast-and-loose with the facts in the past. In many of the cases he’s protested — from the Michael Brown case to Freddie Gray’s death to Sandra Bland’s — McKesson has made claims to his large Twitter following that turned out to be false.

McKesson has become a hot commodity for several presidential campaigns. Hillary Clinton invited him to a campaign event in June. And Bernie Sanders reached out to him on Twitter to set up a meeting to discuss the Black Lives Matter movement.” (dailycaller.com-8/24/2015<http://dailycaller.com/2015/08/26/deray-mckesson-tweets-then-deletes-claim-that-virginia-shooter-was-white/>)
 
Old 05-25-2017, 08:31 AM
 
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I had to do some reading up on your local Baltimore story.

You accuse McKesson of being a TFA shill. The main criticism of TFA (Teach for America) is that they help well meaning and subject qualified university grads become inner-city teachers but that they don't have teaching degrees or prior teaching experience, and come in at lower pay.
"There is an elitist overtone to the structure of TFA, a belief that the best and the brightest can make a difference in the lives of children who are less fortunate, even when they are not professionally prepared to do so." & "Teach For America brings in "the least-prepared and the least-experienced teachers" into low-income schools and makes them "the teacher of record."

I don't follow this argument in relation to charter schools as public schools typically have higher, and more experience and & teaching degree & paper based , hiring practices while charter schools can hire who they want. I know a Christian charter school that hires well meaning but subject and teaching unqualified teachers from it's congregation.

Note that charter schools can be created by anyone - including BLM, lefties, and church groups. Charter schools can hire anyone - including low paid church members and low paid TFA's - with budget being the main driver . There is no reason to believe that charter schools are "the solution" and universally better than public schools.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teach_For_America
Thanks for the info!

Didn't know all of that. I figured there were stricter rules as far as their origin and that they had to follow certain guidelines. I didn't know that at all. Very interesting.

The argument I was hearing in the African American community is that the teachers were very disconnected from the communities they served in. That the community wanted teachers more familiar with the kids environment.

I also heard a lot of arguments about how we should fund our public schools 1st, so that we ensure everyone gets a good education. Which I'm in agreement with.


Crazy how the budgets got cut and increased the EXACT same amount after all that time of denying bein a TFA shill.
 
Old 05-25-2017, 10:37 AM
 
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Sounds like EXACTLY what Secretary of Education, Betsy Devos, wants. It's what the Republicans ALWAYS want.
Republicans want "school choice" where public money goes to private schools. They are not huge fans of charter schools because it is a distracting alternative from the real goals of school choice.

Charter schools reveal the big split inside the DNC between progressives and liberals, with unions aligning with the progressives and neoliberals aligning with the core liberals. The progressive-union alliance is mostly a matter of convenience as both sides are taking a beating from the liberal-neoliberal alliance (that is functionally shifting the core DNC to globalist neoliberalism).
So the progressives oppose charter schools in an effort to support unions to gain political capital (even though many progressives marginally support school choice). And liberals support charter schools as part of identity politics and consolidation of service/federalization (charter schools trend towards state, rather than local, control of schools).
 
Old 05-25-2017, 06:23 PM
 
Location: USA
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Republicans want "school choice" where public money goes to private schools. They are not huge fans of charter schools because it is a distracting alternative from the real goals of school choice.

Charter schools reveal the big split inside the DNC between progressives and liberals, with unions aligning with the progressives and neoliberals aligning with the core liberals. The progressive-union alliance is mostly a matter of convenience as both sides are taking a beating from the liberal-neoliberal alliance (that is functionally shifting the core DNC to globalist neoliberalism).
So the progressives oppose charter schools in an effort to support unions to gain political capital (even though many progressives marginally support school choice). And liberals support charter schools as part of identity politics and consolidation of service/federalization (charter schools trend towards state, rather than local, control of schools).
Interesting breakdown. Your from the area where a lot of these debates are happening so interesting to hear your perspective.

Crazy how much time and politics has passed Hope alls well
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