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Old 06-02-2017, 06:14 PM
 
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He can't renegotiate squat. I don't know if Trump is intelligent enough to realize this, but his advisers probably are.
Agree, the last thing the rest of the world is interested in, is catering to Trump who can't even walk with them and has to take a golf cart.
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Old 06-02-2017, 06:34 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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What terms/sections specifically does Trump want to renegotiate? (A coherent answer gets the usual prize)
Boy aren't you the optimist taking him seriously.


If you read into the terms of the agreement it will take 3-4 years for the US to withdraw, I read where he could have backed out in a year if the US pulled out of the UN framework council but he chose to remain. This was just more bluster but sadly we should be leading, the US efforts towards CO2 reduction will continue.


There was a press conference today with Scott Pruitt and several reporters asked him whether Trump believed climate change was real, he just would not answer.
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Old 06-02-2017, 06:42 PM
 
Location: Port Charlotte, FL - Dallas, PA
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The greater good lol. news flash, we can't and shouldn't take on expenses like this if we are dead broke and we are $21 TRILLION IN DEBT.

People don't have any common sense that's for sure?
My thoughts exactly. You beat me to posting them!
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Old 06-02-2017, 06:47 PM
 
Location: Springfield, Ohio
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It's not that deep, as he is not a deep thinker. All his policies thus far have pretty much centered around "If Obama did it, let's undo it".
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Old 06-02-2017, 06:49 PM
 
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According to what I heard today, he's saying that he might be amenable to re-negotiating things for more favorable terms to America.

He may have stupidly assumed that, as when he was dictator in his own private company, he could re-negotiate anything. He may have been surprised to hear that Europe has no intention of accommodating him.
There is nothing to negotiate. Once again Trump is a POS who is FOS.

Italy, France and Germany said on Thursday they regretted U.S. President Donald Trump‘s decision to withdraw from the Paris climate accord and dismissed his suggestion that the global pact could be revised.

He also gave China our lunch as they will fill the vacuum along with other countries that have sane leadership and they will all prosper.
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Old 06-02-2017, 06:57 PM
 
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sure it was a ploy-look at all these liberal moron Mayors and Governors who pledged to fork over tens of millions of city and state moneys to support it. That lets the federal government off the hook, and we didnt even have to sign the stupid scheme. I just hope the people of NYC appreciate Bloomberg diverting $15 million dollars of city funds to give to some scumbag official who will no doubt skim half of it off for "admin expenses" and in the end, Liberia will get maybe 2 solar panels with whats left of the money.
Okay... first, you realize that bloomberg is no longer the mayor, right? Second, the $15 million isn't coming from city funds, but from his foundation. You didn't notice that, right?

"Bloomberg's plan calls for his foundation to work with other groups, from governments to philanthropies, that want to support the U.N.'s climate change agency.
"We are grateful to Bloomberg Philanthropies for this generous contribution," UNFCCC Executive Secretary Patricia Espinosa said in a news release about the funding pledge."


Bloomberg Promises $15 Million To Help Make Up For U.S. Withdrawal From Climate Deal : The Two-Way : NPR
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Old 06-02-2017, 11:11 PM
 
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Default Rand Paul Mocks Trump Critics on Paris Accord Withdrawal — ‘Mass Extinction, Really?’

Rand Paul Mocks Trump Critics on Paris Accord Withdrawal - 'Mass Extinction, Really?' - Breitbart

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Paul said, “We should try to constrain pollution. We should try to control pollution. I think we’ve been doing that for 50 or 60 years. And I think we should continue. But your previous guest sounded like, my goodness, the sky is falling, mass extinction. Really? I don’t think we should be alarmists about this. The planet is 4.5 billion years old. We have gone through great extremes of climate change natural and now we may have man-made influence as well.”

“But these people, the question I always ask the alarmists is how much is nature and how much is man?” he continued. “They act as if it’s a given that man is the only source of climate change. My goodness, the great climate changes in our history happened before the industrial revolution. So is there climate change could man have an impact? Yes, but let’s not be such alarmists that if we don’t sign the Paris accord that there’s going to be mass extinction? That’s a ridiculous statement.”



Rand Paul is probably the politician I like the most. He seems to make sense a lot of the time
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Old 06-02-2017, 11:15 PM
 
Location: Phoenix
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Rand Paul Mocks Trump Critics on Paris Accord Withdrawal - 'Mass Extinction, Really?' - Breitbart






Rand Paul is probably the politician I like the most. He seems to make sense a lot of the time
Yes, he's the smartest Politician in the Swamp...too bad he doesn't have Trump's charisma.
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Old 06-02-2017, 11:46 PM
 
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Rand Paul: '
With regard to the idea of whether you have a right to health care, you have realize what that implies. It’s not an abstraction. I’m a physician. That means you have a right to come to my house and conscript me. It means you believe in slavery. It means that you’re going to enslave not only me, but the janitor at my hospital, the person who cleans my office, the assistants who work in my office, the nurses.
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I’m a physician in your community and you say you have a right to health care. You have a right to beat down my door with the police, escort me away and force me to take care of you? That’s ultimately what the right to free health care would be.
Offensive, insulting, infused with the self-pitying victimology of the very privileged, and so self-evidently dumb that a college freshman who just discovered Ayn Rand would be embarrassed to have said it. It’s a Rand Paul argument, all right! Why are you trying to enslave Rand Paul, by having the government offer him money to treat people? That is literally human bondage. You jackbooted “Medicare” thugs will get Doctor Paul’s phoropter from his cold, dead hands! '
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Old 06-02-2017, 11:51 PM
 
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Physician? Well, technically anyhow. He is an opthamologist. Or was. Still the "board" that he formed of family members, says he is still "certified".

I would use the term "certifiable".

' Not content to let Chris Christie dominate the national hypocrite conversation Monday, Rand Paul—a certified doctor who vaccinated his own children—said he believes there's a link between vaccines and "profound mental disorders." '
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