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Old 06-04-2017, 07:57 AM
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Russian bot?

Since when do they care about human rights in Russia?
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Old 06-04-2017, 07:57 AM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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Interesting.

So.. let me get this straight.

The ban (created by Obama) was specifically designed to deal with Islamic terrorism, from countries where there is a known problem of this occurring, major hot beds of such activity.

You people object, claiming that Trump is doing this because he hates Islam and Muslims, not because he just wants to protect from terrorists radicals.

Then.. you make the argument that Saudi Arabia should be added to the list because of a Islamic belief and practice?


/facepalm



So the conclusion is you want to ban Muslims?

I can't keep things straight. You people are all over the place, it is like you have no real position, just objections. /boggle
I believe you face-palmed yourself a bit too hard, you seem confused.

It's Trump who's all over the place in calling for a Muslim travel ban and then skips over Muslims from one of the most radical Muslim countries and kisses their butts instead.
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Old 06-04-2017, 07:58 AM
 
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You can't keep it straight because of the political biases in your head.

You can't for one instance admit that the whole Saudi thing is shaky. That it makes you uncomfortable that Trump is so buddy buddy with them and that we are beholden to them now with all these deals.

That's the problem is that blind loyalty is blind.....

If you believe the ban is to be effective and is to be targeting the countries most like to fund and provide terrorists you can't leave out Saudi Arabia.

The Executive Order was done for show. It is not an effective tool to truly provide security to our borders or our country.

That's the point -- we get it.

I would support extreme measures to improve border procedures, vetting, etc. but not a ridiculous simplified ban that is more about show than effectiveness.
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Old 06-04-2017, 07:59 AM
 
Location: Steeler Nation
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Yup ...Saudi Arabia--America's friend. No need for a Travel Ban here--Trump likes them.
Yea, and Obama kissed their Muslim ass.
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Old 06-04-2017, 08:00 AM
 
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Yea, and Obama kissed their Muslim ass.
What did Trump just do....

Are you kidding me?

From what I was told by most conservatives here the Saudis didn't like Obama because he wasn't so kissy kissy with them.

You can't flip flop - oh wait -- of course you would because that's what Trump does.
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Old 06-04-2017, 08:01 AM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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Yea, and Obama kissed their Muslim ass.

And WHAT does Trump do?

I thought he was allegedly different?

Or haven't you figured out who's POTUS now?
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Old 06-04-2017, 08:03 AM
 
Location: Phoenix
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Coming soon to France I bet liberals can't wait for our very own wife beating schools to demonstrate our diversity achievements.
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Old 06-04-2017, 08:04 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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Interesting.

So.. let me get this straight.

The ban (created by Obama) was specifically designed to deal with Islamic terrorism, from countries where there is a known problem of this occurring, major hot beds of such activity.

You people object, claiming that Trump is doing this because he hates Islam and Muslims, not because he just wants to protect from terrorists radicals.

Then.. you make the argument that Saudi Arabia should be added to the list because of a Islamic belief and practice?


/facepalm



So the conclusion is you want to ban Muslims?

I can't keep things straight. You people are all over the place, it is like you have no real position, just objections. /boggle
Obama Admin ceased processing refugee applications from Iraq for 6 months in response to a specific threat.

Obama Admin ceased to allow entry from specific visa exempt countries when the holders were dual nationals.

For example, an Iraqi who bought citizenship from Malta could no longer use the Malta passport to enter the US without a visa.

Why comparing Trump's and Obama's immigration restrictions is flawed | PolitiFact
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Old 06-04-2017, 08:07 AM
 
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I thought the travel ban was on countries who had very poor record keeping. Like no provable birth certificates, etc.

IMO, if we want to stop terrorism, boycott all things Arab and Persian. They can't eat oil.

If the sanctions were lifted, Exxon could drill. Russia could supply all of Europe with petroleum.
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Old 06-04-2017, 08:11 AM
 
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How dare you go after Saudi Arabia -- they loved our President and his wife. They fawned all over him. The USA entered into big huge deals with them...Millions of dollars. Sold our soul to the devil and bragged about it.
Surreal.

Stephen King summed it up well.

https://twitter.com/StephenKing/stat...89116613120003
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