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Old 06-04-2017, 09:04 PM
 
Location: St. Louis
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didn't stop him....

London terrorist had twice been referred to police over his extremist views

and I love this part:

"The friend told the BBC’s Asian Network that the terrorist had been radicalised watching videos of the infamous American hate preacher Ahmad Musa Jibril."

Now we need to add America to the travel ban to America. That's why a country ban isn't really all that effective.
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Old 06-04-2017, 09:21 PM
 
Location: New Jersey and hating it
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Meanwhile, these European leaders still think Trump is the enemy and not the terrorists.
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Old 06-04-2017, 09:22 PM
 
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Liberals believe everyone deserves 10th and 11th chances because these demented peoples' lives have more worth than the innocent children, women and men just trying to live their lives.

IN THE NAME OF PC WE PRAY!
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Old 06-04-2017, 09:27 PM
 
Location: Stasis
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No claim so far that they were immigrants. As in the US they don't have thought police and need a reason to lock people up.
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Old 06-04-2017, 09:35 PM
 
Location: Stasis
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"The friend told the BBC’s Asian Network that the terrorist had been radicalised watching videos of the infamous American hate preacher Ahmad Musa Jibril."

Now we need to add America to the travel ban to America. That's why a country ban isn't really all that effective.
https://www.counterextremism.com/ext...ad-musa-jibril

Ahmad Musa Jibril is an Arab-American Islamist preacher who has reportedly influenced Westerners to fight in the Syrian conflict.* From his home in Michigan, Jibril produces Internet lectures that advocate a Salafist version of Islam that praises jihad, although he doesn’t specifically call upon his followers to join jihadi groups. Jibril has directly praised Syrian rebels, comparing them to those fighting on behalf of Islam in the religion’s early days.* A 2014 report by the International Centre for the Study of Radicalisation (ICSR) found that Jibril “adopts the role of a cheerleader: supporting the principles of armed opposition to Assad.”
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Old 06-04-2017, 09:57 PM
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The orlando clown was on the radar but O said stand down, its just a case of islamaphobia.
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Old 06-05-2017, 05:46 AM
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Location: Great Britain
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didn't stop him....

London terrorist had twice been referred to police over his extremist views

and I love this part:

"The friend told the BBC’s Asian Network that the terrorist had been radicalised watching videos of the infamous American hate preacher Ahmad Musa Jibril."

Now we need to add America to the travel ban to America. That's why a country ban isn't really all that effective.
There are over 3,000 people currently under 24 hour surveillence in the UK, each subject costs over £500,000, so that's around £1.5 Billion, enough to pay for around 50,000 police.

There are also many more people of interest, however not everyone can be put under 24 hour surveillence so choices have to be made.

Furthermore the vast majority of surveillence is carried out by the Security Service (MI5) who have sopecialist units backed up by Police Counter Terrorism Units and Special Forces as well as GCHQ and the Secret Intelligence Service (MI6).

In recent years these agencies have been given substantial new resources and attacks are reguarly succesfully stopped, especially high level attacks, however low tech attacks and lone wolf attacks are often more difficult to prevent, and the Security Services have to make choices in relation to 24 hour surveillence resources.

The Security Services were given substantial extra funding last year following the Paris attacks, there have been significant increases at MI5 (Security Service), MI6 (Secret Intelligence Service) and GCHQ (Government Communications Headquarters).

Paris terror attack: Britain to hire 2,000 new spies - Telegraph

UK To Hire 1,900 Extra Spies To Counter Attacks - Sky News

Britain to hire 1,900 more spies to combat Islamic State militants | Reuters

MI6 set to recruit 1,000 extra staff - BBC News

MI6 returns to 'tapping up' in effort to recruit black and Asian officers - Guardian

British Special Forces To Get Extra £2bn - Sky News

UK's special forces to get extra 4bn pounds to fight terror | Business Standard News

Police to train extra 1,500 firearms officers - BBC News


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Old 06-05-2017, 05:51 AM
 
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Meanwhile, these European leaders still think Trump is the enemy and not the terrorists.
Show me one quote where they say Trump is the enemy and not the terrorist.

Because they are going ahead with the Paris Agreement doesn't mean they think Trump is the enemy?

I don't know how you come to that conclusion.
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Old 06-05-2017, 05:52 AM
 
Location: Northern Maine
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No claim so far that they were immigrants. As in the US they don't have thought police and need a reason to lock people up.
THere are thought police in England, you can be arrested for hate crime that amounts to a song someone finds offensive.

Geert Wilder was convicted of insulting Morroco. !

There most certainly ARE thought police all over Europe.
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Old 06-05-2017, 05:55 AM
 
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But come on now Trump claiming the 90 day ban will stop things like this from happening is naive, or just plain lying to us all.

The internet is how ISIS is recruiting...not the borders.

And that 90 day ban would have expired by now. Where's the review of the immigration vetting process. You tell me they can't do it without the 90 day ban. That's bull.

Again either total incompetence or just plain lying to us all.
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