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Old 07-17-2017, 05:10 AM
 
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Just show liberals what they created which was a law that was pushed through our throats without properly knowing what was in the bill.

The false and fake promises that we could keep our plan and get $2500 relief resulted in losing our plan and 40% increase in premium.

With all the false media and how Obama has changed rules prior to leaving office, liberals calling for impeachment and lying to their followers....just let this monster implode.

See how many Democrats will still have affordable health care.

Then come with a new bill and meanwhile some Republicans who are just a puppet on a string for anti Trumpers wil have moved out of office.

Let Obamacare die by itself!
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Old 07-17-2017, 05:12 AM
 
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By "let it implode" Trump means "don't pay the bills". That may be the way he operates his businesses, but I'd like to think America aims for a higher standard.
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Old 07-17-2017, 05:25 AM
 
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By "let it implode" Trump means "don't pay the bills". That may be the way he operates his businesses, but I'd like to think America aims for a higher standard.
President Trump is not obligated to spend one dime that was not authorized in the original legislation. A program is to be self-sustaining through participant premiums. If the Democrats over-promised and under-funded it, then too bad. They don't get a second bite at the apple.
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Old 07-17-2017, 05:28 AM
 
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Funny how you people completely ignore the role insurance companies play in this debacle.
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Old 07-17-2017, 05:30 AM
 
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Just show liberals what they created which was a law that was pushed through our throats without properly knowing what was in the bill.

The false and fake promises that we could keep our plan and get $2500 relief resulted in losing our plan and 40% increase in premium.

With all the false media and how Obama has changed rules prior to leaving office, liberals calling for impeachment and lying to their followers....just let this monster implode.

See how many Democrats will still have affordable health care.

Then come with a new bill and meanwhile some Republicans who are just a puppet on a string for anti Trumpers wil have moved out of office.

Let Obamacare die by itself!
So if something is broken, you let it complete explode and even hurt more people to prove a point.....and then you try to fix it.

Instead of fixing it when you identify a problem.

Interesting strategy.

I think that is the most ridiculous strategy ever and ends up with more people suffering...and not all of them liberals.

The idea of politicians and govt. isn't to prove the opposition wrong to say 'I told you so.". The Republicans said they could fix this...then fix it as soon as possible.

What' s happening now is we are seeing that the Republican party can't agree how to fix it and even the fixes being proposed from the divided party do little to reduce your premiums and increase the number of people who can be covered.

This letting Obamacare fail is the only hope of the Republican party calling a win. That's the saddest state of affairs for us voters -- liberal or conservative.

I'm stunned by the emotional, irrational desire just to prove the liberals wrong.

Shaking my head.
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Old 07-17-2017, 05:33 AM
 
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So if something is broken, you let it complete explode and even hurt more people to prove a point.....and then you try to fix it.

Instead of fixing it when you identify a problem.

Interesting strategy.

I think that is the most ridiculous strategy ever and ends up with more people suffering...and not all of them liberals.

The idea of politicians and govt. isn't to prove the opposition wrong to say 'I told you so.". The Republicans said they could fix this...then fix it as soon as possible.

What' s happening now is we are seeing that the Republican party can't agree how to fix it and even the fixes being proposed from the divided party do little to reduce your premiums and increase the number of people who can be covered.

This letting Obamacare fail is the only hope of the Republican party calling a win. That's the saddest state of affairs for us voters -- liberal or conservative.

I'm stunned by the emotional, irrational desire just to prove the liberals wrong.

Shaking my head.
For me, the most stunning thing I've observed is the fact that Republicans had EIGHT YEARS to do come up with their own plan. Nearly 3,000 days of time they could've used to really research the issue, come up with viable ideas and how to pay for their ideas.

And what do we get from the right? Zip, zilch, zero, nada.
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Old 07-17-2017, 05:42 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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For me, the most stunning thing I've observed is the fact that Republicans had EIGHT YEARS to do come up with their own plan. Nearly 3,000 days of time they could've used to really research the issue, come up with viable ideas and how to pay for their ideas.

And what do we get from the right? Zip, zilch, zero, nada.
They can just send up that bill that Obama Vetoed last year and put it on Trumps desk for approval, that was their plan approved by both houses. What a bunch of frauds, even Trump is criticizing the GOP for their lack of a plan.
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Old 07-17-2017, 05:47 AM
 
Location: OH->FL->NJ
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what happened to I have a terrific plan?
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Old 07-17-2017, 06:06 AM
 
Location: NC
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Im ok with letting it fail on its own as well. I dont have a plan on the exchange but have been watching my premiums expand an average of about 70%/yr the last few years anyhow, so without a doubt Im being forced to subsidize others heathcare that I shouldnt be.
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Old 07-17-2017, 07:59 AM
 
Location: Cape Cod
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The GOP has had years to come up with something better but they were too busy working on their own survival and planning on spending the next 8 years under Hillary.

The last thing we need is the same or worse plan rolled out and tested on us.

Obamacare has helped many people but it has also hurt many and I suspect the same will happen under any plan the Feds push out which makes me think that they should not be in charge of forcing healthcare on America.


Trump is so keen on repealing and replacing when what they should be doing is repairing Obamacare.
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