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Old 07-28-2017, 08:07 PM
 
Location: Living rent free in your head
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Those are different from essential health benefits. That is a small range of very specific screening services, not general preventative care, e.g. Cholesterol tests are covered, but not the liver enzyme tests to get statin drugs prescribed. The only non-screening service covered under preventative care benefits are vaccines for at-risk populations only.
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Old 07-28-2017, 11:05 PM
 
Location: El paso,tx
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According to the Congressional Budget Office the House Obamacare repeal will increase the number of uninsured Americans by 23 million people.

https://www.greenvilleonline.com/sto...ion/102112858/


Do you believe that no one will die from 23 million Americans losing their health insurance?
Only 6.4 million are signed up on obamacare policies now...how can 23 million lose their insurance by repealing obamacare?
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Old 07-28-2017, 11:45 PM
 
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Only 6.4 million are signed up on obamacare policies now...how can 23 million lose their insurance by repealing obamacare?
There are 12.2 million signed up with the ACA in 2017 The house bill ended the federal payments for expanded medicaid, there are about 14.4 million people on expanded medicaid. The house plan in it's various iterations raised premiums for people over 55 or 60 to the point that many of them would be paying half of their income in insurance premiums, so it's a combination of those factors. Since there were variations of the bill, some cutting medicaid expansion more quickly than others or raising premiums in varying amounts the projected number of uninsured varied from one bill to another. Here is the CBO scoring there are tables in it that break down the numbers for you. https://www.cbo.gov/system/files/115...28aspassed.pdf
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Old 07-29-2017, 12:01 AM
 
Location: New Orleans, La. USA
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Your failed, awful party refuses to have a conversation about the topic. The Democrats don't care about the people suffering and dying under Obamacare. They've killed millions and forced millions more into poverty. Which is right where they want everyone to be, so they are dependent on government (and liberals).
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Wait, the dems just voted not to go into discussion about this very thing....yes?
I was talking about members of this forum having that conversation.

And blocking debate in Washington is common practice. Republicans blocked debate when democrats tried to give the middle class tax cuts, republicans blocked debate for lowering student loan interest rates, and republicans blocked debate for raising billionaires tax rates. ex.ex.

GOP Senators Reject Tax Cuts for Middle Class - CBS News
GOP blocks Senate debate on Dem student loan bill - The San Diego Union-Tribune
Senate Republicans Block Debate On Buffett Rule : NPR

Democrats blocked the debate because debate brings republicans one step closer to the "Skinny Repeal" bill that kicks 15 million people off healthcare and raises EVERYONE'S premiums by 20%.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...=.538d3bdc85c7
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Old 07-29-2017, 12:05 AM
 
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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"How many people would lose their lives if the Republican effort to repeal the Affordable Care Act succeeds? Estimates of this inherently murky statistic vary, but the range is from about 28,000 to nearly 100,000 a year."

How many people will die from the Republicans' Obamacare repeal bills? Tens of thousands per year - LA Times
Wait..your thread title clearly states that the repeal WILL kill tens of thousands, and then you link an OPINION piece that states that it ESTIMATES it will kill all those people. I think its irresponsible of you to post MISLEADING thread titles
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Old 07-29-2017, 06:50 AM
 
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I was talking about members of this forum having that conversation.

And blocking debate in Washington is common practice. Republicans blocked debate when democrats tried to give the middle class tax cuts, republicans blocked debate for lowering student loan interest rates, and republicans blocked debate for raising billionaires tax rates. ex.ex.

GOP Senators Reject Tax Cuts for Middle Class - CBS News
GOP blocks Senate debate on Dem student loan bill - The San Diego Union-Tribune
Senate Republicans Block Debate On Buffett Rule : NPR

Democrats blocked the debate because debate brings republicans one step closer to the "Skinny Repeal" bill that kicks 15 million people off healthcare and raises EVERYONE'S premiums by 20%.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...=.538d3bdc85c7
Your links still say the talked/debated the bill first:

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After two hours of debate, cloture vote failed to gain the 60 votes necessary to bypass a filibuster.
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The 52-45 vote to begin debating the legislation fell
The dems were mad because they did not have a chance to debate what was in the bill....the vote came up for them review the bill and debate the bill....they all said no....

And there is a difference in blocking a bill after debating it, and not having debated a bill and still block the bill from going into debate....
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Old 07-29-2017, 05:37 PM
 
Location: New Orleans, La. USA
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Your links still say the talked/debated the bill first:

The dems were mad because they did not have a chance to debate what was in the bill....the vote came up for them review the bill and debate the bill....they all said no....

And there is a difference in blocking a bill after debating it, and not having debated a bill and still block the bill from going into debate....
In 2016 democrats in Washington asked republicans to help them fix Obamacare.

Dems to GOP: Help us fix ObamaCare | TheHill
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Old 07-29-2017, 07:25 PM
 
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In 2016 democrats in Washington asked republicans to help them fix Obamacare.

Dems to GOP: Help us fix ObamaCare | TheHill
Why would Republicans want to involve themselves in a failing bill that was totally a Democratic idea?

Seems like Democrats only sought Republican input when the ACA was failing. Day late, dollar short folks.
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Old 07-30-2017, 01:53 PM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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Only 6.4 million are signed up on obamacare policies now...how can 23 million lose their insurance by repealing obamacare?
Practically everyone who has insurance has an "Obamacare" policy. "Obamacare" encompasses all the provisions of the ACA, not just the exchanges. If the law against denying insurance to those with pre-existing conditions is repealed, lots of people will lose their insurance. If the law allowing young adults up to age 26 to remain on their parents' plan, a lot of YAs will lose insurance. If the laws mandating certain preventive care is repealed, a lot of people will lose those benefits, if not their entire policy.
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Old 07-30-2017, 02:14 PM
 
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In 2016 democrats in Washington asked republicans to help them fix Obamacare.

Dems to GOP: Help us fix ObamaCare | TheHill
Why would the repubs help the dems when the repubs had very little to do with the ACA?

Remember, they (repubs) can ride, but they have to get in the back....signed obama....
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