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Old 07-25-2017, 11:43 AM
 
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Your father was the reason she had them, even if they had her name on them.

This is actually true.

A woman could not apply for credit prior to 1975. Any woman who had a credit card had it because her husband applied and she was an authorized user. Now, some men had accounts with the wife's name on them where they (the husband) didn't use that card because it was for the wife to use for whatever expenses they/she chose. Some women PAID their own credit card bills, because they did work. But, prior to 1975, these women could not OPEN a credit card account alone.
You are wrong. My father was long dead by the time my mother got most of her credit cards and that was before 1975. My mother did work and did have a work history. Even today, if a woman doesn't work, she isn't getting a credit card unless she includes her husband's income as "household income".
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Old 07-25-2017, 11:47 AM
 
Location: Sonoran Desert
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You are wrong. My father was long dead by the time my mother got most of her credit cards and that was before 1975. My mother did work and did have a work history. Even today, if a woman doesn't work, she isn't getting a credit card unless she includes her husband's income as "household income".
The Equal Credit Opportunity Act which prohibited gender (and racial etc) discrimination in credit was passed in 1974. Lenders, of course, did not have to discriminate against women prior to that, but many did. After 1974 it was illegal to do so.
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Old 07-25-2017, 11:54 AM
 
Location: The analog world
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You are wrong. My father was long dead by the time my mother got most of her credit cards and that was before 1975. My mother did work and did have a work history. Even today, if a woman doesn't work, she isn't getting a credit card unless she includes her husband's income as "household income".
I don't think this is accurate. I must have access to independent assets appropriate for and sufficient to counter the risk the agency is taking in extending credit to me, but it doesn't have to include a job.
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Old 07-25-2017, 11:54 AM
 
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Baloney. An undergrad elective class is 150 people in an auditorium. There's no Socratic method where you stand and debate with the professor. That's upper division and graduate school.

Spare me your tweedy haughtiness. You have no business lecturing to me about the nature of learning at the college level. I guess you didn't read or comprehend my statement. When a class veers off curriculum and into the ditch at the misdirection of a prof's personal agenda there's no obligation for the students to be even moderately interested enough to follow him.
In a class of 150 people, the educational experience is particularly directed by the student, not the professor.

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There are most definitely worthless courses and even worthless degrees. Especially when you factor in their considerable cost.

Why wouldn't there be? Is everything you buy of equal value? Colleges are selling a product and not all of them are intellectually or financially valuable. Why would they be? There are some REALLY bad faculty out there who at least in the liberal arts programs can get away with teaching their opinions and going completely off topic with the curriculum. Been there. Not making this up.

Quality completely depends on the specifics of the dept and the professors. Had a 20th century US history elective taught by an asst prof who projected a semester long Marxist rant about the evils of the power elites in American history. It wasn't history it was his angry extreme spin on it. On the flip-side I took a history of religion class that I was super skeptical about. I was waiting for the spin and proselytization. Had a pool on how long it would take to tell who the prof's "floating guy in the clouds" was. I was so wrong. It was an outstanding class taught by a guy who looked like the devil and in '78 completely predicted the rise of the political evangelical right. Back then we were all certain religion was dying out but Howard Miller was spot on. Value is all about the quality of the educators.
This is not a post that suggests critical thinking or engaged reading on your part. It sounds like you listened to 3 hours of lecture a week & took it as gospel--in both courses you describe.
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Old 07-25-2017, 11:56 AM
 
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OP, you are the one who said this on a previous thread:



It's disturbing how you are all indignant about the idea of your daughter taking a woman's studies class, but apparently if she takes her clothes off for the pleasure of men that's A-Okay with you? You would rather your daughter emulate a porn star than an educated woman? These are the "values" you wants to instill in your infant daughter?

God help that poor child.
It's mind boggling that anyone would want their daughter to look up to Melania at all and especially above an educated women like Michelle Obama. I have nothing against Melania, I don't care if she took her clothes off but I don't think anyone should want their daughter to look up to somone whose main accomplishment in life is Golddigger. Melania was born wth good looks and she used them to do some modeling, get noticed by and marry a wealthy man 25 years her senior and popped out a kid to solidify the gravy train.

The people who want their daughters to grow up to be just like Ivanka better get started on becoming wealthy real estate investers who can give their daughter a job and plenty of money to start businesses with. They also need to work on making sure their daughter grows up to be beautiful famous, and has access to the best of everything.

The Trump worshipers don't seem to be able to really think these things through.
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Old 07-25-2017, 11:58 AM
 
Location: USA
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Golden rule "Those who have the gold make the rules". Kids seem to come back around eventually.
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Old 07-25-2017, 12:21 PM
 
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I don't think this is accurate. I must have access to independent assets appropriate for and sufficient to counter the risk the agency is taking in extending credit to me, but it doesn't have to include a job.
My female friend worked at a bank for 20 years. She wanted to buy a house. The bank arranged for financing. She earned twice what a man should earn to get the same loan.

Her brother had to cosign her note.

Seems like a lot of us could use some women's studies.
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Old 07-25-2017, 12:26 PM
 
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Marlow, im serious about that... and would say the same thing to my liberal friends. it poison as far as I am concerned. Not because its liberal shoot, being a liberal is as American as being a conservative.


but from what I have seen such degrees and classes bend the thinking in ways that are just beyond the pale.


my kids will go to college. im not going to be in charge of what they study but if they want my help, there will be some guidelines. degrees in underwaterbasket weaving wont get my assistance. Becoming a scientist with the focus on fighting global warming (I am a pretty well studied SKEPTIC) would get my assistance.
I just don't think one liberal arts class in a college is going to change someone's values in the long term. If a person is that easily persuaded their values were not very well established to begin with.
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Old 07-25-2017, 12:29 PM
 
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I just don't think one liberal arts class in a college is going to change someone's values in the long term. If a person is that easily persuaded their values were not very well established to begin with.
They know that many of their believes are anathema to anyone who's done even the slightest bit of scholarship on the subjects.
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Old 07-25-2017, 12:34 PM
 
Location: Billings, MT
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IMO, when she turns 18 you should give her the "college fund", and tell her "There ya go, enjoy. You are an adult now, do it your way!"
If you raised her right, she will spend the money wisely. If you didn't, she will throw it away on toys and frippery.
She will be an adult, the choices will be hers to make.
I wish her luck.
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