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Old 08-03-2017, 10:14 PM
 
Location: New York, NY
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The hype is out of hand. So many media outlets are making Trump's 'base' seem like some impenetrable force that is keeping him invincible.

I'm calling BS here and now.
We just had the election. The next election is in 3 years. Who knows.. but he recently won the election.
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Old 08-03-2017, 10:17 PM
 
Location: New York, NY
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Trump supporters are, by and large, disaffected, uneducated, angry people for whom Trump serves as a cipher. They thrive on his nastiness since it serves as a cipher for their own powerless anger. He makes them feel powerful by association. The fact that he is a lying psychopath and disgusting human being--and has been his whole life (to which anyone who has been watching the Trump Show for the past 30 years will attest)--is therefore unimportant to them. They have no standards of decency, no expectations that the President of this great nation should be of unimpeachable character. They love his lies, they love his divisiveness in driving them to distrust their own government and other Americans. Every day he lies, and every day his supporters find ways to deflect. They're not interested in the truth; they are breathlessly devoted to looney web sites that claim the U.S. government is their enemy, that "liberals" are their enemy. That only Donald Trump tells the truth (despite the massive preponderance of evidence to the contrary), and that everyone else lies--everyone else: the Chicago Tribune, the New York Times, the Washington Post, the French press, the German press, the Swedish press--all "liars," all engaged in some nefarious plot to take down America. Trump says "fake news," and they all fall right into line. He promises them everything, and can deliver nothing (primarily because he has no idea how government works, has no understanding of American history--he doesn't read--and is more concerned with holding ludicrous rallies where his sycophants cheer every stupid, empty thing he says). They are drunk on their alternative view of the world. The whole world sees Trump for the dangerous and ignorant and dishonest narcissist that he is, and is appalled that the U.S. could have elected this lunatic as POTUS. He has done more in 6 months to damage our international reputation that any President in history. But somehow, for his supporters, the whole world is wrong. Only Trump is right; only Trump tells them the truth. Caught in a mass delusion, they are a cult driven by their own powerless anger. Jesus Christ himself could descend from the skies and tell them directly the truth of Donald Trump and they'd stone him to death.
You're argument collapsed on itself because your post was completely nasty and angry.
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Old 08-03-2017, 10:17 PM
 
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Your first sentence was wrong, as much as the rest of your post. I know many, many educated, happy people that voted for Trump because they wanted to see a change in direction of this country back to capitalism. Myself included. It was pretty much a vote for fiscal responsibility, and vote for jobs, and the economy.
No, not wrong. For all the reasons I stated. "Back to capitalism"? What does that even mean? "A vote for fiscal responsibility, and vote for jobs, and the economy." What, in Donald Trump's verified history suggests that he is fiscally responsible, cares about jobs for the average American, or cares about anything other than his own bank account? He blows smoke up your end and you buy it, hook, line, and sinker, with absolutely no evidence from his past behavior that he is in any way committed to any of it. All of his "speeches" are just vague, bloviating, sound-bite nonsense: wall, capitalism, jobs, economy, "fake news," "witch hunt"--peppered throughout with "I'm the greatest person ever," "I know more than any President in history," blah, blah, blah.

Get real.
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Old 08-03-2017, 10:19 PM
 
Location: Morrison, CO
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No, not wrong. For all the reasons I stated. "Back to capitalism"? What does that even mean? "A vote for fiscal responsibility, and vote for jobs, and the economy." What, in Donald Trump's verified history suggests that he is fiscally responsible, cares about jobs for the average American, or cares about anything other than his own bank account? He blows smoke up your end and you buy it, hook, line, and sinker, with absolutely no evidence from his past behavior that he is in any way committed to any of it. All of his "speeches" are just vague, bloviating, sound-bite nonsense: wall, capitalism, jobs, economy, "fake news," "witch hunt"--peppered throughout with "I'm the greatest person ever," "I know more than any President in history," blah, blah, blah.

Get real.
Wow, so much anger, and hate. Who is angry again?
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Old 08-03-2017, 10:27 PM
 
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Wow, so much anger, and hate. Who is angry again?
Not hate. Astonishment, amazement. And angry at what is happening to my nation under the so-called "leadership" of this fraud.

So, other than that: what, in Trump's history and long life, have convinced you that he has your interests at heart? That he knows what he's talking about? That he doesn't, in fact, have utter contempt for you? Here's a tip: Trump cares only about Trump (obvious to anyone who has been familiar with his shenanigans for the past several decades). You are nothing to him but a cipher for his ego. It's not rocket science.
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Old 08-03-2017, 10:41 PM
 
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Not hate. Astonishment, amazement. And angry at what is happening to my nation under the so-called "leadership" of this fraud.

So, other than that: what, in Trump's history and long life, have convinced you that he has your interests at heart? That he knows what he's talking about? That he doesn't, in fact, have utter contempt for you? Here's a tip: Trump cares only about Trump (obvious to anyone who has been familiar with his shenanigans for the past several decades). You are nothing to him but a cipher for his ego. It's not rocket science.
What specifically is happening to your nation ? Lose a job, 401 K loss, or is it emotional issue like he doesn't care enough about you ? Did he stop you from growing your own carrots ?
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Old 08-03-2017, 11:14 PM
 
Location: PSL
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Originally Posted by OrganicSmallHome View Post
Trump supporters are, by and large, disaffected, uneducated, angry people for whom Trump serves as a cipher. They thrive on his nastiness since it serves as a cipher for their own powerless anger. He makes them feel powerful by association. The fact that he is a lying psychopath and disgusting human being--and has been his whole life (to which anyone who has been watching the Trump Show for the past 30 years will attest)--is therefore unimportant to them. They have no standards of decency, no expectations that the President of this great nation should be of unimpeachable character. They love his lies, they love his divisiveness in driving them to distrust their own government and other Americans. Every day he lies, and every day his supporters find ways to deflect. They're not interested in the truth; they are breathlessly devoted to looney web sites that claim the U.S. government is their enemy, that "liberals" are their enemy. That only Donald Trump tells the truth (despite the massive preponderance of evidence to the contrary), and that everyone else lies--everyone else: the Chicago Tribune, the New York Times, the Washington Post, the French press, the German press, the Swedish press--all "liars," all engaged in some nefarious plot to take down America. Trump says "fake news," and they all fall right into line. He promises them everything, and can deliver nothing (primarily because he has no idea how government works, has no understanding of American history--he doesn't read--and is more concerned with holding ludicrous rallies where his sycophants cheer every stupid, empty thing he says). They are drunk on their alternative view of the world. The whole world sees Trump for the dangerous and ignorant and dishonest narcissist that he is, and is appalled that the U.S. could have elected this lunatic as POTUS. He has done more in 6 months to damage our international reputation that any President in history. But somehow, for his supporters, the whole world is wrong. Only Trump is right; only Trump tells them the truth. Caught in a mass delusion, they are a cult driven by their own powerless anger. Jesus Christ himself could descend from the skies and tell them directly the truth of Donald Trump and they'd stone him to death.
LOL way to project... for someone educated on the left, you surely failed highschool ELA...

No standards for decency...
How many college kids tuitions are you paying for that aren't related to you?
How many others medical bills are you paying for that aren't related to you?
How many refugees do you house feed and clothe?
How many illegals do you employ? House? Feed? Hide from ICE?

These rallies are a way for him to engage his supporters... and unlike Soros paying 50 bucks per hour to fill seats at clinton rallies during the election cycle (which was reported by Bernie supporters by the way) These people are paying to see the man.

Our view of the world is different from yours since our heads don't fit up our asses.
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Old 08-03-2017, 11:17 PM
 
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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Originally Posted by OrganicSmallHome View Post
Not hate. Astonishment, amazement. And angry at what is happening to my nation under the so-called "leadership" of this fraud.

So, other than that: what, in Trump's history and long life, have convinced you that he has your interests at heart? That he knows what he's talking about? That he doesn't, in fact, have utter contempt for you? Here's a tip: Trump cares only about Trump (obvious to anyone who has been familiar with his shenanigans for the past several decades). You are nothing to him but a cipher for his ego. It's not rocket science.
After reading your insane, hate filled posts filled with the most liberal idiocy I have ever read (and on CD that is saying something) I can come to 2 conclusions:

1. You are a paid troll spouting almost word for word liberal talking points from Maddow and Chrissy "tingle up my leg" Matthews because nothing you have posted..NOTHING, shows any sign of independent thought or analysis..

2. You moved to this country 10 minutes ago from some third world hellhole and have ZERO knowledge of the History of American politics.

Either way you need to seek treatment for your Trump derangement syndrome, and sooner, rather than later. I hear the anal cramps are the worst...
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Old 08-03-2017, 11:21 PM
 
Location: PSL
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No, not wrong. For all the reasons I stated. "Back to capitalism"? What does that even mean? "A vote for fiscal responsibility, and vote for jobs, and the economy." What, in Donald Trump's verified history suggests that he is fiscally responsible, cares about jobs for the average American, or cares about anything other than his own bank account? He blows smoke up your end and you buy it, hook, line, and sinker, with absolutely no evidence from his past behavior that he is in any way committed to any of it. All of his "speeches" are just vague, bloviating, sound-bite nonsense: wall, capitalism, jobs, economy, "fake news," "witch hunt"--peppered throughout with "I'm the greatest person ever," "I know more than any President in history," blah, blah, blah.

Get real.
Let's see you fall from grace and bounce back with a net worth in the billions
I'd take financial advise from him over the Chicago community organiser who's idea of economics is take from the working and give to the layabouts and welfare recipients.

Oh and then to make healthcare affordable for all...
You're going to go from paying 35 a week to 90 a week 2-5k out of pocket deductible to be met because your old insurance company dropped you because COBRA was cheaper than what they'd have to charge

And if you're in your 20s married with kids it will be 2-300 per week, with a 15k dollar deductible to be met every calender year
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Old 08-03-2017, 11:22 PM
 
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LOL way to project... for someone educated on the left, you surely failed highschool ELA...

No standards for decency...
How many college kids tuitions are you paying for that aren't related to you?
How many others medical bills are you paying for that aren't related to you?
How many refugees do you house feed and clothe?
How many illegals do you employ? House? Feed? Hide from ICE?

These rallies are a way for him to engage his supporters... and unlike Soros paying 50 bucks per hour to fill seats at clinton rallies during the election cycle (which was reported by Bernie supporters by the way) These people are paying to see the man.

Our view of the world is different from yours since our heads don't fit up our asses.
No projection. It's called "knowledge."

Yep, no standards for decency. You voted for a man who stated that he "grabs *****." Who discussed the sexual attractiveness of his daughter and wife with Howard Stern. Who said he could shoot someone on the street and his supporters would still vote for him (in other words, he was making fun of his supporters--but of course, that went right over their pointy little heads). Who spends every day trying to alienate Americans from their own government and implant paranoia about their press. He says "fake news," and his supporters--like most cult members--never question it; they fall right into line.

As for your list of college students , medical bills, refugees, illegals, etc. This is all utter bullsh*t paranoia and fear that the right wing has ginned-up in order to get votes (and if you think for a second that Trump or any other Republican really gives a crap about any of this, you're delusional; gotta hand it to them, though, it sure worked to get votes).

These rallies are appropriate for campaigning, not for a sitting President. They're also incredibly bizarre and childish. He shows up, spews a bunch of crapola that he knows you want to hear and that he couldn't care less about, sits back and soaks up the clueless cheers--and you think your heads don't fit up your asses??

Yeah, okay.
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