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Old 08-14-2017, 07:38 AM
 
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It's not about erasing history. It's about not celebrating those that fought in support of those things that are now viewed as wrong.

I'm all for recognizing and learning from history. I don't think we need to elevate the wrong side to hero status.
Yeah, it's pretty simple.

There are plenty of things we learn about that we also don't celebrate with statues.
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Old 08-14-2017, 07:38 AM
 
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That's exactly what it's about. The left can't handle reality or history. They live in a politically correct bubble where things that offend them must simply go away. The slavery era is being completely removed from history books in schools because the truth is too harsh for liberals. It's really pathetic
So you would be okay with placing a 6 foot plaque detailing the history of each monument/statue?

On that plaque, it would state how the people who raised money or funded the statues were associated with KKK and wanted the monument placed in order to rebel against the idea that black Americans were citizens with rights that should be protected in the USA....

I doubt you or the neo-nazi protesters want the real truth told.
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Old 08-14-2017, 07:39 AM
 
Location: San Diego
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It is the right that is erasing history. These memorials were once that, memorials. But the right has changed their character into symbols of racism. The right has turned them into a focus of hate rather than a benign nod to our troubled past - a place to sit and feed the pigeons. The statues must fall now because of what the right has done.
When should we start the book burning? Isn't that step #2? Filter all web content with a reference?
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Old 08-14-2017, 07:42 AM
 
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This is the liberal mindset, don't learn from something....shout it down, suppress it. Erase history that stresses you. They are a plague on this nation.
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Old 08-14-2017, 07:42 AM
 
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I wrote in another post about this that the statues should serve as reminders to all of a terrible time in our history where we fought to the death over what we believed in.

The statues should not be viewed as symbols of racism or oppression but they should serve as beacons of how far we have all come from those dark days. They should be symbols of pride for black people and reminders of their ancestors struggles. To the black youth they should be taught to pull up their saggy pants, thumb their nose at the statue because today the sky is the limit for them.
We need to learn from these statues not take them down and erase their lessons.


Sorry but this is ridiculous. How do you believe that statues funded by confederate sympathizer racists 50-100 years after the Civil War should be seen as a "symbol of pride for black people" when a majority of them were placed in order to tell our black ancestors "F you" when they asked for equal protection under our laws.

If you want these statues seen as a symbol of pride, erect monuments to the black troops who fought in the Civil War right alongside those statues and place a 6 food plaque commemorating the history of the Confederate monument/statue and making sure to name the KKK funders and councilmen/representatives who wanted to memorialize confederates for the sole purpose of claiming ownership of public property for whites only and denying black people their civil and economic rights in this country.
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Old 08-14-2017, 07:44 AM
 
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Unfortunately, if you ran a poll on this forum on which side you wished had won the Civil War, the South would win.

Sieg Heil, y'all!
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Old 08-14-2017, 07:44 AM
 
Location: Homeless
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I honestly get the civil war memories can be percieved as allot of hate. Not for the soldiers, as they were pretty much doing what was told of the.
The Politicians, Generals etc, sort of were too, but it was war.
But erasing history is what Socialist, Marxist do. Not our country. We are doing it because of emotion.
Never going to win or agree or disagree about the civil war and why it was fought. Thats an educatiin and indoctrination issue that is up to you to resolve.
So is this what America is l about, erasing history, because it offends you?


Not a liberal or a Trump loyalist but to ease/forget where we have come from or/or what we have done then odds are we will not learn from it and will repeat it at some point.
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Old 08-14-2017, 07:45 AM
 
Location: SC
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I honestly get the civil war memories can be percieved as allot of hate. Not for the soldiers, as they were pretty much doing what was told of the.
The Politicians, Generals etc, sort of were too, but it was war.
But erasing history is what Socialist, Marxist do. Not our country. We are doing it because of emotion.
Never going to win or agree or disagree about the civil war and why it was fought. Thats an educatiin and indoctrination issue that is up to you to resolve.
So is this what America is l about, erasing history, because it offends you?
Why does that history have to sit on public property - instead of in a museum where it belongs?
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Old 08-14-2017, 07:46 AM
 
Location: Morrison, CO
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Unfortunately, if you ran a poll on this forum on which side you wished had won the Civil War, the South would win.

Sieg Heil, y'all!
That is a very hateful thing to say. Why am I not surprised.
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Old 08-14-2017, 07:47 AM
 
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This is the liberal mindset, don't learn from something....shout it down, suppress it. Erase history that stresses you. They are a plague on this nation.
False narrative.

Taking down an idol of someone who was oppressive to residents of his time is not erasing history. It is taking down a statue.

This comment is hilarious to me because the recent change in AP US History of reporting facts not fairy tale interpretations of history has been fought against by conservatives saying it isn't patriotic to talk about the bad stuff in USA history.

My experience, liberals want to talk about the reality of the Civil War, the reality of the Viet Nam War, the reality of segregation, sexism...and conservatives are all -- what we don't have any of those problems anymore -- come one -- stop talking about it. Don't you love your country?
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