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Old 08-24-2017, 01:06 PM
 
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Remeber googles "tell congress please dont censor the web" garbage during the stop online piracy act ?

Its amazing how monopolistic and evil these companies have become. The government should do the same thing they did to at&t .

I recommend everybody read this book .

Move Fast and Break Things: How Facebook, Google, and Amazon Cornered Culture and Undermined Democracy

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In the fall of 2011, legislation aimed at curbing online copyright infringement, the Stop Online Piracy Act, was introduced. It had bipartisan support in Congress, and backing from such disparate groups as the National District Attorneys Association, the National League of Cities, the Association of Talent Agencies, and the International Brotherhood of Teamsters.


In January, 2012, the bill seemed headed toward passage, when Google decided to flex its market-concentrated muscles. In place of its usual colorful logo, the company posted on its search page a black rectangle along with the message “Tell Congress: Please don’t censor the web!”
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Old 08-24-2017, 01:06 PM
 
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Silicon valley has really turned ugly since the election.

"That’s what my lawsuit is about,” she said. “We filed a lawsuit against the U.S. government for Section 230 under the FEC code that gives Facebook and YouTube and Twitter this immunity against these lawsuits. That has to change.

PayPal did indeed suspend my account after a hit piece by ProPublica, a George Soros-funded uber-left quote-unquote ‘think tank,’ as it were,” said Geller, venturing that not much thinking seemed to be going on at the think tank in question.

“This is in the aftermath of Charlottesville. The left is using Charlottesville to move in for the kill and crush anyone who dissents,” she said. “ProPublica did this piece, and the reporter, Lauren Kirchner, had written to me and asked me a series of questions. Clearly, one could see from the questions that it was a set-up.”

“She had asked me, ‘Have you been shut down by other tech companies for being a hate site?’ I mean, you have to love the assumption that I’m a hate site because I cover jihad terror-related news and sharia. That’s the focus of the website,” Geller said.

Pamela Geller: Too Much Power over Free Speech in the Hands of a Small Number of Big Tech Companies
So go start your own company, good grief in one breath the cons whine about businesses being able to run their business any way they see fit then they whine that some companies are doing just that, is ever any logic in your thinking or do you even think at all?
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Old 08-24-2017, 01:08 PM
 
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Oh, and just a thought, if these companies are pout to shut down the right from speaking then why does trump still have a Twitter account, is it because they know his head would explode if his rant platform were taken away or do they support free speech unless it is coming from a hate group.
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Old 08-24-2017, 01:09 PM
 
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Since tech companies are private entities, they can't be squashing free speech, since it's government that can't squash free speech.

However, if there was every a fuzzy line about whether tech companies should also be forced to extend free speech on the web since it's considered 'public' ....if such case ever got to the supreme court...if the court is right leaning, then they are more likely to side with the rights of the tech companies since the right leaning justices tend to favor the rights of private enterprises.
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Old 08-24-2017, 01:11 PM
 
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I hate more government regulation. However, what is the purpose of government in instances like these? You're OK with what these companies are doing because you agree with hem politically. Should they not be held to the same standard as other industries?


Instead of doing all the thing government SHOULDN'T be doing, especially the un-Constitutional stuff, they should be doing what they are there to do.
Would you support government intervention that forced Fox News and Rush Limbaugh to provide a platform for progressive political views?
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Old 08-24-2017, 01:15 PM
 
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So go start your own company, good grief in one breath the cons whine about businesses being able to run their business any way they see fit then they whine that some companies are doing just that, is ever any logic in your thinking or do you even think at all?
Its hard to make much sense of this drivel but what makes you think everyone on the right is a typical "conservative"
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Old 08-24-2017, 01:21 PM
 
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Its hard to make much sense of this drivel but what makes you think everyone on the right is a typical "conservative"
I have no doubt you have trouble making sense of anything that is just plain common sense, start your own company, and fact, as proven time and time by Cons here whining about some business being forced to do something like baking a cake and then wanting to force a business to supply a service to those that they feel are putting out a message of hate using their company product. Yes, I am sure you have a real hard time making sense of those facts, not that it surprises anyone here.
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Old 08-24-2017, 01:30 PM
 
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Would you support government intervention that forced Fox News and Rush Limbaugh to provide a platform for progressive political views?
That is not analogous. Your analogy is similar to saying alt-right websites should have to provide a platform to progressives. These internet infrastructure companies' actions are more analogous to cable and satellite companies refusing to allow Fox news on at all because of their viewpoint. They are acting like they are the FCC and controlling access to the entire medium based on content.

The internet, largely developed and created by the US government and handed over to private entities, is not really a free market. A few companies and entities, through monopolies, economies of scale and barriers, and other schemes, basically control what is and isn't on the web. And I suspect the government is pulling strings and influencing these companies in the background.
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Old 08-24-2017, 01:36 PM
 
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Seeing hate-rouser Pam Geller get shut down was the best thing that came out of Charlottesville. It couldn't have happened to a bigger fear-monger and race-baiter than she. It truly made my day.
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Old 08-24-2017, 01:37 PM
 
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That is not analogous. Your analogy is similar to saying alt-right websites should have to provide a platform to progressives. These internet infrastructure companies' actions are more analogous to cable and satellite companies refusing to allow Fox news on at all because of their viewpoint. They are acting like they are the FCC and controlling access to the entire medium based on content.

The internet, largely developed and created by the US government and handed over to private entities, is not really a free market. A few companies and entities, through monopolies, economies of scale and barriers, basically control what is and isn't on the web.
If the medium is their company then yes they have the right to tell FOX to get out, you really do not get it do ya. Thing is they have not done so, they have been selective in who they refuse to sell to, if they were not then you might have an argument, a weak one but still a more valid argument than has been presented here.
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