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Old 03-21-2011, 06:59 PM
 
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That's why we need HSR. Too bad the airline industry won't allow it to happen.

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n a recent poll of global travelers by SilverRail Technologies, 90% of respondents said they would like to see rail options displayed alongside flights when searching for travel. Rail is suddenly a hot topic (again) as the Obama Administration has pledged $53 billion to create several new high speed rail corridors in the country.

High speed rail is a very realistic alternative in Europe and Asia, but in the US there are very few routes that can currently be replaced by rail transport. When asked whether they would pick rail over air when available:
  • 79% would choose train over plane if high-speed rail options existed.
  • 61% would choose rail over air if the cost was the same or better.
The hassles involved in air travel have also helped increase interest in rail alternatives:
  • 86% of people would accept having the entire time from door-to-door be longer to avoid the process of checking in, security and boarding.
  • 66% would willingly add an hour or more of total travel to their trips to avoid the hassles of long lines, airport security and baggage fees.

Just how bad is the packing situation? Some people actually pack underwear in their laptop bag to reduce the weight of their main bag:
  • 89% of people take action to avoid paying bag fees, planning packing days in advance and stuffing carry-ons to maximum capacity to avoid checking bags.
  • 19% of people surveyed say they pack underwear in a laptop bag to avoid checking bags.
  • 61% are frustrated with extra costs added to airline ticket prices and wanted to be secure that the ticket price they paid is the total price.
And finally, when asked about how air travel has changed in recent years, 72% say waiting in the various lines is the #1 hassle:
  • Waiting in line is the #1 air travel hassle, according to 72% of people.
  • While waiting in line for a pat down, 47 % dream about the easy travel of yesteryear
  • 36% wanted family and friends to be able to accompany them to the gate, an impossibility with air travel
Survey says: 79% of travelers would pick high speed rail over air travel when possible | Gadling.com
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Old 03-21-2011, 07:02 PM
 
Location: Maine
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Sounds like a great business opportunity for a motivated person to put his money where his mouth is . . .
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Old 03-21-2011, 07:05 PM
 
Location: Reality
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I'm shocked that a poll conducted by a group called SilverRail Technologies would show people support rail transportation, that's a huge coincidence isn't it? No matter what we build in this country, the TSA will make it just as difficult to use and people will get upset about delays.
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Old 03-21-2011, 07:09 PM
 
Location: Midwestern Dystopia
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Sounds like a great business opportunity for a motivated person to put his money where his mouth is . . .
too bad your logic doesn't extend to the socialized airline, road, highway, and bridge industry....

try again.
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Old 03-21-2011, 07:09 PM
 
Location: Inland Levy County, FL
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I'm shocked that a poll conducted by a group called SilverRail Technologies would show people support rail transportation, that's a huge coincidence isn't it? No matter what we build in this country, the TSA will make it just as difficult to use and people will get upset about delays.
Mmmmhmmmm.

Again, if it's such a great idea, private industry can fund and run it.
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Old 03-21-2011, 07:10 PM
 
Location: Limbo
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I think if rail becomes more popular, "security" measures will be increased. We all know this security means inconvenience.

For moderate distance trips, I'd love rail. Assuming it won't take an hour to be harassed by incompetent security employees.
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Old 03-21-2011, 07:11 PM
 
Location: MS
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Originally Posted by Recovering Democrat View Post
Sounds like a great business opportunity for a motivated person to put his money where his mouth is . . .
I agree. A group a investors backing the project and not my tax dollars.

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poll of global travelers by SilverRail Technologies,
How did the people from the US respond? A positive poll about high speed rail by a company that has a vested interest in rail. hmmmmm

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  • 86% of people would accept having the entire time from door-to-door be longer to avoid the process of checking in, security and boarding.
  • 66% would willingly add an hour or more of total travel to their trips to avoid the hassles of long lines, airport security and baggage fees.
Let it get popular and you will have longer lines at check in, heavy groping by a TSA agent and baggage fees.

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Just how bad is the packing situation? Some people actually pack underwear in their laptop bag to reduce the weight of their main bag:
  • 89% of people take action to avoid paying bag fees, planning packing days in advance and stuffing carry-ons to maximum capacity to avoid checking bags.
  • 19% of people surveyed say they pack underwear in a laptop bag to avoid checking bags.
  • 61% are frustrated with extra costs added to airline ticket prices and wanted to be secure that the ticket price they paid is the total price.
Watch for FedEx and UPS to get into the baggage shipping business soon.

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And finally, when asked about how air travel has changed in recent years, 72% say waiting in the various lines is the #1 hassle:
  • Waiting in line is the #1 air travel hassle, according to 72% of people.
  • While waiting in line for a pat down, 47 % dream about the easy travel of yesteryear
  • 36% wanted family and friends to be able to accompany them to the gate, an impossibility with air travel
Don't worry. The .gov will step in and correct all of this for rail travelers also.
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Old 03-21-2011, 07:11 PM
 
Location: Reality
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Mmmmhmmmm.

Again, if it's such a great idea, private industry can fund and run it.
Oh it's a great idea, if you have a ton of tax dollars and no plan to ever be profitable.
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Old 03-21-2011, 07:12 PM
 
Location: Maine
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too bad your logic doesn't extend to the socialized airline, road, highway, and bridge industry....try again.
Someone once told Sam Walton he could never compete against K-Mart, Sears, Woolworth, etc.

Sam was an enterprising young man who put his money where is mouth was.

A college drop-out named Billy Gates was told he couldn't compete with IBM . . . . .
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Old 03-21-2011, 07:13 PM
 
Location: MS
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Originally Posted by Badger View Post
too bad your logic doesn't extend to the socialized airline, road, highway, and bridge industry....

try again.
Article 1 section 8 of the Constitution gives the government power to construct roads.

Which airlines are they subsidizing?
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