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Why can't these guys defend Trump on his merits without bringing up someone else?
As someone who didn't vote for either Trump or Hillary, I find your question amusing. For eight long years, every time someone criticized Obama the liberal response was "but Bush....". Now liberals are complaining that conservatives are using the same tactics? A prime example of "Good for me, but not for thee."
Hate to tell you, but chances are you'll be hearing this for the next 7 years. Sure, there's a chance that Trump won't run again, but he's a narcissist so the likelihood of him stepping down after one term is pretty slim. If he has the slightest chance of winning, he'll probably run. And, quite frankly, if the current state of the Democrat party is any indication their chance of beating an incumbent is even lower than the chance of Trump stepping down. The DNC is imploding as we speak, but nobody really wants to admit that.
The amazing thing to me about the whole situation is that liberals truly don't seem to understand that they gave the election to Trump through their choice of Hillary as the DNC candidate. Quite possibly the only Democrat who couldn't beat Trump, and somehow she became Obama's designated heir. Obama himself wasn't very popular with voters in fly-over country, and Hillary promised more of the same. What did liberals think would happen? That a candidate which even a lot of liberals didn't really like and who either ignored or insulted blue-collar voters was going to inspire those same voters to vote for her? Not likely. Sure, she won the popular vote by 3 million, but a large portion of that difference can be attributed to 4 counties in New York - which were never going to vote for a Republican. She actually lost blue wall states that were considered an easy victory for the Dems.
I considered the 2016 election to be a good indication that the two-party system is fundamentally broken. We ended up with 2 candidates who should never have even gotten close to the office of POTUS. Trump is a narcissistic egomaniac and Hillary is, at best, a pathological liar. Either way, we as Americans were going to lose. That being said, the hysteria of the left over Hillary losing (which is what the problem really seems to be) is ridiculous. And, as long as that hysteria continues, the chances of the DNC rebuilding into something that approaches what they used to be - back when Democrats actually seemed to care about the working class - are pretty much zero.
So Trump supporters are basically sheep that follow other's peoples behavior.
That and then some. Americans follow politicians like groupies. How else do you explain a race coming down to 2 elitists like Hillary and Trump? How do you explain people turning a blind eye to all the controversies surrounding both? All reason has left politics. It's like watching a cheap version of the WWF.
For eight long years, every time someone criticized Obama the liberal response was "but Bush....".
Not really. That just might be how you remember it. For most people, they remember years of criticism aimed at Obama based on things that simply weren't true. The list is a long list, but he got hit with....he's a muslim, he's a mole terrorist embedded in american politics with the intent to internally destroy the US, he was destroying the economy, he was going to declare himself dictator, he made the job market worse, etc.
The only time Bush was ever used as the liberal response, was when conservatives continued the same lie over and over again, that the economy was getting worse under Obama, so of course, liberals had to point out the truth.
Trump on the other hand....is just lying about almost everything, and most of the time, conservatives use...once again, lies about Obama and Hilary when they bring them up as a defense against trump's idiocy.
Here's a novel idea.....if you're going to bring up Obama and Hilary, at least let it be based on TRUTH, because the TRUTH was, the economy was worse under Bush. The TRUTH was, a good portion of today's debt was built upon TWO expensive wars from the Bush era (in which in idiotically decided to reduce taxes...I mean, who reduces taxes during war time????). On the flip side, when trump supporters keep bringing up Obama and Hilary, it's usually based on lies that have been proven wrong over and over again.
Not really. That just might be how you remember it. For most people, they remember years of criticism aimed at Obama based on things that simply weren't true. The list is a long list, but he got hit with....he's a muslim, he's a mole terrorist embedded in american politics with the intent to internally destroy the US, he was destroying the economy, he was going to declare himself dictator, he made the job market worse, etc.
The only time Bush was ever used as the liberal response, was when conservatives continued the same lie over and over again, that the economy was getting worse under Obama, so of course, liberals had to point out the truth.
Trump on the other hand....is just lying about almost everything, and most of the time, conservatives use...once again, lies about Obama and Hilary when they bring them up as a defense against trump's idiocy.
Here's a novel idea.....if you're going to bring up Obama and Hilary, at least let it be based on TRUTH, because the TRUTH was, the economy was worse under Bush. The TRUTH was, a good portion of today's debt was built upon TWO expensive wars from the Bush era (in which in idiotically decided to reduce taxes...I mean, who reduces taxes during war time????). On the flip side, when trump supporters keep bringing up Obama and Hilary, it's usually based on lies that have been proven wrong over and over again.
what I remember is attacking Obama for saying things like his trillion dollar stimulus package would keep unemployment below 7%. it didn't. that there were all kinds of "shovel ready jobs" funded by it. there weren't. it saved or created all kinds of jobs. it didn't. It did give a big old pile of cash to public unions and planned parenthood... I critizied those things too.
I remember him saying ACA would let you keep your dr. It didn't. That it would keep middle class familes costs down. it didn't. That it would "bend the cost curve" that didn't happen. but hey he TRIED.
I also remember when unemployment went above that 7% magic number he blamed bush.
when we had multiple years of trillion plus budget deficits he blamed bush.
when ACA took a long time to pass because he didn't let republcans participate in the process he blamed republcans... and bush.
when his economic plan failed, (Never above 2%) he first blamed bush then as things drug on, he blamed "obstructionist republicans" even though for YEARS he had majorities in both houses and for 2 years a virtual super majority in both houses.
so nothing there about islam.... although, when the middle east blew up he did in fact blame Bush.
when he failed to negotiate a Status of Forces agreement in Iraq he blamed Bush. Then he pulled out of Iraq and blamed Bush (even though he campaigned on pulling out of Iraq.) and when that blew up and the JV team took control of the whole thing, and hundreds of thousands of innocent people were killed, he blamed George Bush.... for his purposeful failure to get an agreement that would leave our military there and in control.
I could go on but im tired of typing. Barak Obama BLAMED BUSH for 8 years. so suck it up and deal with the fact that with impunity we will invoke the idiocy of Bammer and Hillary and the other idiots from the previous administration because they failed America, they did things that directly hurt America and we are more than happy they are gone.
what I remember is attacking Obama for saying things like his trillion dollar stimulus package would keep unemployment below 7%. it didn't. that there were all kinds of "shovel ready jobs" funded by it. there weren't. it saved or created all kinds of jobs. it didn't. It did give a big old pile of cash to public unions and planned parenthood... I critizied those things too.
I remember him saying ACA would let you keep your dr. It didn't. That it would keep middle class familes costs down. it didn't. That it would "bend the cost curve" that didn't happen. but hey he TRIED.
I also remember when unemployment went above that 7% magic number he blamed bush.
when we had multiple years of trillion plus budget deficits he blamed bush.
when ACA took a long time to pass because he didn't let republcans participate in the process he blamed republcans... and bush.
when his economic plan failed, (Never above 2%) he first blamed bush then as things drug on, he blamed "obstructionist republicans" even though for YEARS he had majorities in both houses and for 2 years a virtual super majority in both houses.
so nothing there about islam.... although, when the middle east blew up he did in fact blame Bush.
when he failed to negotiate a Status of Forces agreement in Iraq he blamed Bush. Then he pulled out of Iraq and blamed Bush (even though he campaigned on pulling out of Iraq.) and when that blew up and the JV team took control of the whole thing, and hundreds of thousands of innocent people were killed, he blamed George Bush.... for his purposeful failure to get an agreement that would leave our military there and in control.
I could go on but im tired of typing. Barak Obama BLAMED BUSH for 8 years. so suck it up and deal with the fact that with impunity we will invoke the idiocy of Bammer and Hillary and the other idiots from the previous administration because they failed America, they did things that directly hurt America and we are more than happy they are gone.
It seems consistent that the party that preaches personal responsibility the loudest, is always the first to point fingers elsewhere. Republicans hold the House, the Senate, the Presidency and a majority of the supreme court and they've accomplished zero significant legislation or policy wins. "But, but, but, it's not our fault. That other guy from before..."
Mine is not an indictment of conservatism, just that the people who run under that banner are little more than incompetent moral slugs, more interested in keeping their jobs and under-the-table perks than they are in actually doing something, anything good for the average American. And as long as we keep electing these people, we get what we deserve.
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