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Old 12-08-2017, 05:32 AM
 
Location: Great Britain
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Partially because they have to account for all of their ammunition and return the empties to get a new box.


The Swiss Army has since 2007 keept all ammunition at a a central arsenal rather than in reservists homes as used to be the case and guns are usually kept as part of military service and national defence rather than as a means of personal defence.


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All healthy Swiss men aged between 18 and 34 are obliged to do military service and all are issued with assault rifles or pistols which they are supposed to keep at home.

Twenty years ago the Swiss militia was a sizeable force of around 600,000 soldiers. Today it is only a third of that size but until recently most former soldiers used to keep their guns after they had completed their military duties, leading to lots of weapons being stored in the attics or cupboards of private Swiss households.

"The Army doesn't give ammunition now - it's all kept in a central arsenal." This measure was introduced by Switzerland's Federal Council in 2007.

Although it is still possible for a former soldier to buy his firearm after he finishes military service, he must provide a justification for keeping the weapon and apply for a permit.

How to buy a gun in Switzerland

  • Heavy machine guns and automatic weapons are banned, as are silencers
  • In most cases the buyer needs a weapon acquisition permit, issued by the cantonal police
  • This will be refused if the applicant has a criminal record, an addiction or a psychiatric problem
  • A special permit is needed to carry a gun in public - and is usually issued only to people who work in security, once they have passed theoretical and practical exams
  • Twenty-six thousand guns were sold legally in Switzerland in 2012 to sportsmen, hunters and collectors
Switzerland guns: Living with firearms the Swiss way - BBC News

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Old 12-08-2017, 05:39 AM
 
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You have to understand that in the USA we love guns and violence, that's been burned into the psyche through Hollywood and TV for well over half a century. Do you really think that's going to change? Nothing is going to turn back our descent into barbarism, because we revel in it. And, because billions of dollars of profit are being made by promoting it. Remember in America, every dollar is a good dollar no matter how much blood or death or agony is associated with those dollars.
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Old 12-08-2017, 05:39 AM
 
Location: San Diego
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The Swiss Army has since 2007 keept all ammunition at a a central arsenal rather than in reservists homes as used to be the case and guns are usually kept as part of military service and national defence rather than as a means of personal defence.
How exactly would that work in a country that allows creating ammo? I reload thirty different calibers.
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Old 12-08-2017, 05:43 AM
 
Location: San Diego
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I think guns should be shot before they are sold and the shells and the bullets entered into a nationwide web site so they can be checked to see if they are used in a subsequent crime. Baltimore has one of the highest illegal gun ownerships and the lowest legal gun ownerships. I do not think machine guns should be legal.
They've already tried this nonsense. Too easy to circumvent. Microstamping is just an idiot's dream that cannot be made true. So many ways around it.


It was literally defeated in seconds the first test firearms. Plus, the possibility of framing someone innocent was just too high.
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Old 12-08-2017, 05:49 AM
 
Location: San Diego
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You have to understand that in the USA we love guns and violence, that's been burned into the psyche through Hollywood and TV for well over half a century. Do you really think that's going to change? Nothing is going to turn back our descent into barbarism, because we revel in it. And, because billions of dollars of profit are being made by promoting it. Remember in America, every dollar is a good dollar no matter how much blood or death or agony is associated with those dollars.
We do promote sheeple that will literally kill themselves over an actor/singer or "celebrity". Hollywood is nothing but a poison.
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Old 12-08-2017, 06:18 AM
 
Location: Great Britain
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How exactly would that work in a country that allows creating ammo? I reload thirty different calibers.
It wouldn't and it's a bit of a myth that Switzerland has lax gun laws.
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Old 12-08-2017, 06:18 AM
 
Location: Columbia, SC
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The Swiss Army has since 2007 keept all ammunition at a a central arsenal rather than in reservists homes as used to be the case and guns are usually kept as part of military service and national defence rather than as a means of personal defence.
Thank you. There are sporting arms in Switzerland, as well as competitive shooting teams. You can own personal firearms, but they are registered and their locations are known. Ammunition is completely controlled by the government. Not a bad plan.
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Old 12-08-2017, 06:20 AM
 
Location: Columbia, SC
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How exactly would that work in a country that allows creating ammo? I reload thirty different calibers.
I used to reload eight while I was still huunting. Reloading at home would cease. That is not an infringement of 2A. Self contained ammo didn't exsist when the Bill of Rights was created.
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Old 12-08-2017, 06:27 AM
 
Location: San Diego
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I used to reload eight while I was still huunting. Reloading at home would cease. That is not an infringement of 2A. Self contained ammo didn't exsist when the Bill of Rights was created.
Do you go door to door to confiscate? Heck, I even have black powder revolvers and long guns. I can make black powder and cast boolits.

Hilarious the amount of control people are willing to be under. May as well have a chip in your skull.
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Old 12-08-2017, 10:15 AM
 
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Hilarious the amount of control people are willing to be under. May as well have a chip in your skull.
There has been talk in some quarters of putting chips in newborns to forever know where they are. They want total control.
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