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Old 10-08-2017, 04:00 PM
 
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There shouldn't be anything perplexing about it and the joke is on the Kurdish officials if they haven't figured out what the ISIS strategy is.

If the leaders of ISIS militants are telling the militants to surrender it's because they don't have enough food and supplies to sustain their numbers. So they send them to the Kurds. If large numbers of the militants turn themselves in to be prisoners of the Kurds then they will be getting fed and sheltered at the Kurds expense. If the militants sacrifice their freedom at this time it means they're still alive and fighting for ISIS insidiously and may live to actively fight again for ISIS at a later date. Keeping them alive as prisoners will put a drain on the Kurds resources and weaken the Kurds while giving the remaining free ISIS leaders and militants the opportunity to regain their strength and resources.

It's a no brainer. Too bad for the Kurds if they couldn't figure that out.

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So the solution is to kill them like the Iranians would do?

I think it does show ISIS is backpedaling. But again this should not be our problem.
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Old 10-08-2017, 04:05 PM
 
Location: In the reddest part of the bluest state
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Originally Posted by Zoisite View Post
There shouldn't be anything perplexing about it and the joke is on the Kurdish officials if they haven't figured out what the ISIS strategy is.

If the leaders of ISIS militants are telling the militants to surrender it's because they don't have enough food and supplies to sustain their numbers. So they send them to the Kurds. If large numbers of the militants turn themselves in to be prisoners of the Kurds then they will be getting fed and sheltered at the Kurds expense. If the militants sacrifice their freedom at this time it means they're still alive and fighting for ISIS insidiously and may live to actively fight again for ISIS at a later date. Keeping them alive as prisoners will put a drain on the Kurds resources and weaken the Kurds while giving the remaining free ISIS leaders and militants the opportunity to regain their strength and resources.

It's a no brainer. Too bad for the Kurds if they couldn't figure that out.


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So the tough as nails Kurds who've been fighting this war for years haven't figured out something you easily deduced from your recliner? Interesting.
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Old 10-08-2017, 04:43 PM
 
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All is quiet on the msm front. Not exactly making front page these days.
We aren’t winning in the Middle East, so I hope that isn’t the message you want the MSM to feed us.
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Old 10-08-2017, 06:55 PM
 
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https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/08/w...surrender.html

Kurdish officials have been perplexed by the number of fighters who have surrendered. Many of the militants said they were ordered by their leaders to turn themselves in to the Kurds, who were known to take prisoners instead of killing them. But Capt. Ali Muhammed Syan, chief of the Asayish interrogators in Dibis, said even the fighters did not seem to know why their leaders were telling them to quit. “Maybe it’s some deal,” he said. “Maybe it’s just bad morale, I don’t know.”

It would be my dream to see us leave all these places pull our troops home and never go back. 15 years in Iraq and Afghanistan and what do we have to show for it?
Finally? ISIS has been losing territory steadily over the last 18 months or so. Admittedly, US media doesn't give a hoot, but anyone actually interested would know.
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Old 10-08-2017, 07:01 PM
 
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Not so much our military. The US is in a supporting role.
Ayup. Actually an intelligent decision - using airstrikes by US (and allies, incidentally) to strip ISIS of things they cannot easily resupply - tanks, artillery pieces, even trucks. Thus giving the local forces on the ground much better conditions for the fight. Asymmetrical warfare turned to our advantage.
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Old 10-08-2017, 07:23 PM
 
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ISIS is all but done on the battlefield. They lost their Iraqi capital of Musal and their Syrian capital of Raqqa. They have since been squeezed together onto the Iraq/Syria border. They're surrounded, they can't win & they have no where to run. If anyone other than Trump was president, this would have been the biggest story in the press for the past 3 months.
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Old 10-08-2017, 08:12 PM
 
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The OP links the NYT. Are you even trying?...
A knee-jerk reaction no doubt.
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Old 10-08-2017, 09:05 PM
 
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Finally? ISIS has been losing territory steadily over the last 18 months or so. Admittedly, US media doesn't give a hoot, but anyone actually interested would know.
That is why I did this thread and linked to a liberal newspaper so the left could not yell fake news.

Not trying to make it a Trump thing it started improving under Obama but its hard for the MSM to squeeze anything else in besides non stop anti trump stories.

I would like to see us out of the the middle east and all troops and money going over there including Israel. I don't any positive from this but the blow back can be traced back decades.
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Old 10-08-2017, 10:12 PM
 
Location: USA
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Maybe it's just their way of a "Trojan Horse" and getting many of their soldiers into a country, and then eventually escaping and causing more terrorist events...
"Trojan Horse" Interesting point. If Gitmo and any other countries prisons have showed us, is after release the recidivism rate among Islamic Terrorists are high. They could do 5 years, then get out an go Bin Laden all over again
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Old 10-08-2017, 10:18 PM
 
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you don't think that Trump and gang wouldn't be taking a victory lap if this really was a result from OUR military.

Come on now -- you don't know Trump well do you -- lol.
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