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https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/08/w...surrender.html
Kurdish officials have been perplexed by the number of fighters who have surrendered. Many of the militants said they were ordered by their leaders to turn themselves in to the Kurds, who were known to take prisoners instead of killing them. But Capt. Ali Muhammed Syan, chief of the Asayish interrogators in Dibis, said even the fighters did not seem to know why their leaders were telling them to quit. “Maybe it’s some deal,” he said. “Maybe it’s just bad morale, I don’t know.”
It would be my dream to see us leave all these places pull our troops home and never go back. 15 years in Iraq and Afghanistan and what do we have to show for it?
Maybe it's just their way of a "Trojan Horse" and getting many of their soldiers into a country, and then eventually escaping and causing more terrorist events...
Maybe it's just their way of a "Trojan Horse" and getting many of their soldiers into a country, and then eventually escaping and causing more terrorist events...
I think they are running short on martyrs. The original ISIS fighters were fight to the death. These losers seem like the just need a paycheck.
We have no business in either Iraq or Afghanistan.
That we continue to waste billions over there while our own people suffer is beyond obscene. How can some complain about things like the money we spend on illegal immigrants, yet turn a blind eye or even approve of the billions squandered in those two places, not to mention lives wasted.
" ISIS Fighters Surrender en Masse Is Our Millitary Finally Winning? "
Not so much our military. The US is in a supporting role.
These people are surrendering to the Kurds (mostly Sunni Muslims, but more modern and liberal) because they have a much greater fear of the Iraqi Shia militias.
Also, the Daesh/ISIS have been compelling local young men to fight for them for years, basically conscription. While they were victorious these people would be blending in, parading with their flags. The most devoted are the 'heroes' (often foreigners) who lead from the front and die more quickly, the draftees are not so highly motivated.
They have been taking a beating and the conscripts are surrendering (after the 'heroes' have died), but mostly to the Kurds ...
But not exactly the lead story anywhere. Perhaps people just don't care anymore or its not an anti-trump story so not relevant to the MSM.
I am a libertarian and want to the troops home now. There is not end game in any of this. I guess we have to have endless war going on to justify the military industrial complex.
Kurdish officials have been perplexed by the number of fighters who have surrendered. Many of the militants said they were ordered by their leaders to turn themselves in to the Kurds, who were known to take prisoners instead of killing them. But Capt. Ali Muhammed Syan, chief of the Asayish interrogators in Dibis, said even the fighters did not seem to know why their leaders were telling them to quit. “Maybe it’s some deal,” he said. “Maybe it’s just bad morale, I don’t know.”
It would be my dream to see us leave all these places pull our troops home and never go back. 15 years in Iraq and Afghanistan and what do we have to show for it?
There shouldn't be anything perplexing about it and the joke is on the Kurdish officials if they haven't figured out what the ISIS strategy is.
If the leaders of ISIS militants are telling the militants to surrender it's because they don't have enough food and supplies to sustain their numbers. So they send them to the Kurds. If large numbers of the militants turn themselves in to be prisoners of the Kurds then they will be getting fed and sheltered at the Kurds expense. If the militants sacrifice their freedom at this time it means they're still alive and fighting for ISIS insidiously and may live to actively fight again for ISIS at a later date. Keeping them alive as prisoners will put a drain on the Kurds resources and weaken the Kurds while giving the remaining free ISIS leaders and militants the opportunity to regain their strength and resources.
It's a no brainer. Too bad for the Kurds if they couldn't figure that out.
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