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Old 10-10-2017, 03:11 PM
 
Location: NE Mississippi
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News: "EPA moves to repeal Obama’s Clean Power Plan coal regs"
Meh........ The air and the water was clean enough in 08; it'll be clean enough now.

In fact, it peaked in 1980, long before Obama "saved us all".
https://ourworldindata.org/air-pollution/


Enough is enough.
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Old 10-10-2017, 03:19 PM
 
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Meh........ The air and the water was clean enough in 08; it'll be clean enough now.

In fact, it peaked in 1980, long before Obama "saved us all".
https://ourworldindata.org/air-pollution/

Enough is enough.
Actually the goal by Trump is to make it less clean than in 08. Appalachia and the Rust Belt said the reason they were destitute was Obama's "war on coal". Now this is where this gets really good:

"President Donald Trump has proposed eliminating funding for economic development programs supporting laid-off coal miners and others in Appalachia, stirring fears in a region that supported him of another letdown on the heels of the coal industry’s collapse.

Trump seeks to ax Appalachia economic programs, causing worry in coal country

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-u...-idUSKBN16N2VF

Obama truly wanted to help Appalachia.

Obama proposes $1 billion lifeline for parts of Appalachia where coal jobs vanished | Lexington Herald Leader

Trump gave them what they wanted, they get to pollute now. No need for a single cent to help them, they can try to bring coal back and the rest of the country can move on without them. They get what they voted for and Trump can ax the programs Obama wanted to help them with.

ZERO PITY for Appalachia. Next we need to make every Disability recipient in Appalachia requalify.
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Old 10-10-2017, 03:31 PM
 
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EPA moves to repeal Obama

We need to prop up other dead/dying industries like whale oil and incandescent light bulbs too. Pruitt needs to go back to his fracked over and earthquake ravaged Oklahoma, never to be seen again.

Obama's "legacy" was nothing more than a paper tiger.

Trump is shredding it daily.

As for "dying", obviously you know nothing about base load power generation. We will still be burning coal long long after you and I are gone. There is a 300 year supply of energy there. It won't be ignored.
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Old 10-10-2017, 04:28 PM
 
Location: Gone
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Good! Trump is just doing what he said he would do. Remove NEEDLESS regulations. We still have the overbearing, and much too broadly interpreted Clean Air, and Water Act. We need less regulation, and lower taxes, or we will remain uncompetitive in the world economy.
You forgot that we all need to also learn to work for far less money..............
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Old 10-10-2017, 06:23 PM
 
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The same people cheering rolling back of protection of clean water and air to
This rule never went into effect thus nothing has been rolled back.
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Old 10-10-2017, 06:29 PM
 
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Obama's "legacy" was nothing more than a paper tiger.

Trump is shredding it daily.

As for "dying", obviously you know nothing about base load power generation. We will still be burning coal long long after you and I are gone. There is a 300 year supply of energy there. It won't be ignored.


Like I said, no one is disputing whether or not coal will totally vanish for purposes of power generation, but what levels will look like in future.


https://cleantechnica.com/2016/03/02...fuel-industry/


It is only Rick Perry and those like him that push "base load power...." as code for forcing through more coal/fossil fuel power generation.




How DOE's baseload power rule 'would blow the market up' | Utility Dive
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Old 10-10-2017, 06:30 PM
 
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(remember Trump changed the rule to allow coal ash to be dumped in rivers..)
You really need to research what you are talking about. That was another last minute one size fits all Obama regulation that never went into effect. Rescinding it had no affect on existing laws at both the Federal and state levels. That reg was sop broad the onlt the way it could be interpreted was to end coal mining in many areas, that's why it got the axe.
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Old 10-10-2017, 06:32 PM
 
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Yes congress ceded their power to the EPA as far as developing standards for clean air and greenhouse gases,
No they did not, the law the EPA is operating under to regulate CO2 was created in 1990. It was never intended to regulate CO2.
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Old 10-10-2017, 06:34 PM
 
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the environmental standards of 3rd world countries.
Use hyperbole much? The standards for the environmental regulations here are some the toughest in the world.
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Old 10-10-2017, 06:36 PM
 
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It's to provide distraction. Bottom line is Trump chose an anti-EPA guy to run the EPA so he could run it into the ground. The Republican Party is no fan of the environment. Coal is just the beginning. Scott Pruitt is getting himself a "secrecy booth" so he can conduct very private calls. Plus he has an 18 man security team. This is not what an EPA head typically needs oh...ever. He is likely meeting with the nation's largest polluters bringing bags of money to make pollution great again. There was a Republican blogger who when he heard that Scott Pruitt was brought in to destroy the EPA said "I practically need to smoke a cigarette". Republicans absolutely hate the environment.

EPA Spends $25,000 on Soundproof Booth for Scott Pruitt | Fortune
EPA chief getting his own $25,000 sound-proof booth - CNNPolitics
Were you making complaints about the EPA under Obama when it was shown they were colluding with environmental groups?
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