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Old 10-22-2017, 12:41 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Brave New World View Post
Trump has linked the two in his own tweet.
To claim that
1) "rises 13% annually" is the same as "is 13% higher than last year"
and
2) Trump wasn't implying a link between the two

is either utterly dishonest or unintelligent.

Come on, just say that either Trump misworded his tweet or he was trying to deceive.
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Old 10-22-2017, 12:52 PM
 
Location: Great Britain
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Originally Posted by CBeisbol View Post
To claim that
1) "rises 13% annually" is the same as "is 13% higher than last year"
and
2) Trump wasn't implying a link between the two

is either utterly dishonest or unintelligent.

Come on, just say that either Trump misworded his tweet or he was trying to deceive.

The tweet was "Just out report: "United Kingdom crime rises 13% annually amid spread of Radical Islamic terror." Not good, we must keep America safe!"

As for crime Milwaukee alone has more murders than London a city of nearly 9 million, whilst Chicago has more muders than England & Wales which have a population of around 58 million.

So the UK is already far safer than the US, and the rise in the crime figures have nothing to do with radical Islamic terror and more to do with changed in police recording methods and the recording of more low level crime such as violence without injury in relation to harrasement, threats, stalking, pushing and shoving, indeed the type of thing most countries don't often even bother recording.
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Old 10-22-2017, 12:55 PM
 
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Read the comments in UK newspapers. Many Brits agree with Trump. When you have an influx of refugees and migrants who are unemployed, uneducated and from Third World countries, crime is bound to go up.
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Old 10-22-2017, 01:02 PM
 
Location: Great Britain
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Read the comments in UK newspapers. Many Brits agree with Trump. When you have an influx of refugees and migrants who are unemployed, uneducated and from Third World countries, crime is bound to go up.
I am from the UK.

The rise in crime is nothing to do with Radical Islam, indeed a lot of it is to do with changes in police reporting, an increasing population generally and an increase in low level crime. Furthermore the Crime Survey of England and Wales, shows a 9% reduction in overall crime during the same period. Experts have for a lont time argued that the Crime Survey is far more accurate than police figures.

As for people writing nonsense in the tabloids comments section, it's usually ill informed nonsense.

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Old 10-22-2017, 01:07 PM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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I see the speeches by Bush and Obama had a large effect on Trump, right back to promoting fear.





https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...islamic-terror
That's an "outburst?"

It's not surprising that the UK, which is nearly as politically correct and as liberal as Germany, would downplay or completely ignore any ties the increase might have to terrorism. We don't want to offend any Muslim terrorists.
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